Total War: SHOGUN 2

Total War: SHOGUN 2

Morning Sun Version 1.0, part 5
46 Comments
Leonardo.Da.Vinch 8 Apr @ 4:07pm 
some cities can not be seen of Japen.
long live the king 29 Aug, 2023 @ 3:46am 
can't download since part 5 to me
quocdat9925 28 Oct, 2021 @ 1:16am 
Why not do it for FOTS make china too
Rainbowsheepz 10 Apr, 2020 @ 9:04pm 
I hope you will make a map for FoTs. lol
uanime5  [author] 10 Apr, 2020 @ 6:11am 
@BANZAI
That's correct. Though I made another map mod for RotS (1351 Nanboku-cho period).
Rainbowsheepz 10 Apr, 2020 @ 1:02am 
Shogun2 original only?
uanime5  [author] 23 May, 2019 @ 11:03am 
@omar_1omar
So it gets slow, then crashes to desktop. Which version are you using?
omar_1omar 22 May, 2019 @ 12:56pm 
NO NOT ALL THE TURNS

SOMETIMES IT GETS SLOW AND THEN I FIND MYSELF OUT
even if I try again it is same
although my laptop is over requirement for the game but it happen a lot during morning sun version
thank
uanime5  [author] 17 May, 2019 @ 5:22pm 
@omar_1omar
Is there anything you do that causes this? Does it occur during the AI's turn?
omar_1omar 17 May, 2019 @ 9:02am 
sometimes during the game it stops and then I find myself out of the game.
Can you help me with this uanime5
Aguacato Juanito 27 Jan, 2016 @ 6:06pm 
i can play with korea, i enter in the chosokabe tutorial campaign, and i play with ashikaga with the oda`s flag in kyoto, since tokugawa have all the country
valkureomega 1 Jun, 2015 @ 3:51am 
I tried to play with my friend Morning Sun both of us installed properly in Multiplayer Cooperative. Unfortunately is not possible to join the game. So seems the mod not support Co Op play. It is possible to add this ?
Grandfather_Sky 22 Aug, 2014 @ 5:26pm 
aye bro, im not sure if you've had reports of this before hand or if its just me but thier seems to be a problem with recruiting korean units on japanese soil, no matter what military buildings i put in it wont let me recruit anybody
Grandfather_Sky 21 Aug, 2014 @ 9:37pm 
alright man, and again thanks for the help
uanime5  [author] 21 Aug, 2014 @ 8:25am 
The upkeep is controlled by the DB table units. I don't know if there's an youtube videos explaining how to edit DB tables.
Grandfather_Sky 20 Aug, 2014 @ 3:37pm 
thanks man, and aye i know ive been asking alot and maybe even pushing it a bit, but i do have one more favor to ask could you lower the upkeep for the korean units? if not could you point me towords a youtube video or somthing that would teach me how to do it
uanime5  [author] 19 Aug, 2014 @ 10:07am 
To play as Korea start the Chosukabe tutorial.
Grandfather_Sky 17 Aug, 2014 @ 7:52pm 
im not sure if your supposed to be able to play as the koreans, but if you are its not working for me, and if not then could you please add that in?
ssauja 15 Aug, 2014 @ 7:09pm 
아니 이런 모드가 나왔다니
(MG) marcos maximus 5 Aug, 2014 @ 6:57am 
o poder elegir para la campaña algunas nuevas facciones
(MG) marcos maximus 4 Aug, 2014 @ 1:34pm 
uanime5 podrias crear algun mod del mundo entero o de fantasia en la campaign
uanime5  [author] 4 Aug, 2014 @ 5:16am 
The Korean army then fought what remained of the Japanese army (many Japanese soldiers had left while peace negoiations with the Ming were being conducted) and forced them out of Korea.

Yi's last battle was against ships full of Japanese soldiers as they were sailing from Korea to Japan. Yi wanted to attack the Japanese at this time because destroying all the Japanese ships wouldn't prevent the Japanese from leaving Korea.
uanime5  [author] 4 Aug, 2014 @ 5:15am 
In the Battle of Myeongnyang Yi didn't destroy the Japanese navy, if he did then the Japanese wouldn't be able to sail back to Japan because they wouldn't have any ships. What Yi did was sink a large number of Japanese ships and prevented them from having access to the Yellow Sea. This had two main effects.

1) The Japanese couldn't resupply their army by sea so all supplies had to be carries thousands of miles along land routes in supply convoys that were vulnerable to attacks by militia. This prevented the Japanese from advancing quickly.

2) Since the Japanese couldn't enter the Yellow Sea this meant that the Ming didn't need to use their navy to protect their coast, so they were able to assist the Korean navy in some naval battles.
uanime5  [author] 4 Aug, 2014 @ 5:00am 
Korea did win many sea battles and sank many ships. Admiral Yi didn't try to sink all the Japanese ships because if he did then the Japanese would be stuck in Korea. Yi's plan was to sink some Japanese ships and sink the rest when the Japanese were sailing back to Japan.

On land the Japanese were able to conquer many cities because the Koreans didn't defend them. For example when the Korean king was planning to flee Pyongyang and go to China most of the northern Korean soldiers didn't want to defend Pyongyang if the king wasn't planning to stay in Korea. However the Ming army arrived and was able to push back the Japanese. Afterwards the Ming diplomats tried to agree a peace treaty with the Japanese without consulting the Koreans.

You're correct that the miltias and monks did fight a successful gurilla campaign against the Japanese.
uanime5  [author] 4 Aug, 2014 @ 4:57am 
Korea sent to diplomates from different politicial parties to Japan to meet with Hideyoshi. One thought Hideyoshi was planning to attack, the other though he was bluffing. While most Koreans didn't think the Japanese would attack after some officials learned that Hideyoshi was planning to attack because of troubles in Japan (a large number of soldiers lead by daimyo from more prestigeous families than Hideyoshi) they became convinced that an attack was inevitable.

The Koreans did attack some Japanese towns in Korea during the Korean 3 kingdoms period and later attacked Tsushima island for harbouring pirates that raided Korea (they asked China for permission before doing this because China was supposed to be ruling the world according to heaven's plan). Koreans were also part of the Mongol force that attacked Japan (along with Mongols and the Chinese). Though you're correct that Korea never decided to attack mainland Japan.
uanime5  [author] 4 Aug, 2014 @ 4:42am 
In the Confuscian caste system it went scholar, farmer, artisan, merchant. Soldiers weren't part of this because the Chinese land owning scholars that created this system represented the virtue of peace, so soldiers who represented war weren't allowed in this hierarchy. Eunches also weren't part of this system even though they served in the imperial court (mainly because in the past they had dominated this court).

In the Japanese caste system it was samurai, farmer, artisan, merchant. It should be noted that samurai also owned large amounts of land, so this may be why farmers were rated so highly.
Fluffy_Ryebread 4 Aug, 2014 @ 3:51am 
Admiral Yi no only destroyed japan's navy, but also cut their supply ships. This lead Japan being very weak with no supplies getting through. Korea then made a mistake by arresting Admiral Yi, due to political framing. They replaced Yi with another admiral, who lost and we were left with only 13 ships. They appointed Yi back, but they feared it was all over.
Admiral Yi didn't run away. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang . In this battle, Yi defeated Japanese fleet, 133 battle and additional 200 ships, with only 13 ships. From this on, Japan knew they coudln't win so they start retreating back. They had their final battle against admiral Yi, which Japan took large amount of casualties and also took away the life of the admiral Yi.
Fluffy_Ryebread 4 Aug, 2014 @ 3:51am 
i am not an expert, but for what i know, government officals were arguing among themselves (political division) while Japan was preparing for an invasion. They believed they were not going to. Korea never attacked Japan directly, except for land where it was occupied by Japanese maraduers and pirate which were constantly attacking korean ships and coastal cities. But Japan did attack us and we were not prepared at all.
When they attacked, we were pushed very hard. However, korea was able to hold them off at the northen state while Admiral Yi was destroying Japanese navy combined with Turtle ship and superior Cannons and by the aid of the Ming. Also, large amount of militias and Monk attacked Japan occupied lands, making it a surpise attack against japan. In addition, there were a great general on Land appointed as general, which started pushing japan back.
Tensacloud 3 Aug, 2014 @ 6:08pm 
Interesting, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I do remember the confucian caste system put traders at the bottom, and then warriors, with farmers above both. It is ironic to think that while farmers are probably more important than warriors, a society that recognizes this is actually weakened because farmers don't need to be honored to do their work well, while warriors sort of do need to be honored
uanime5  [author] 3 Aug, 2014 @ 5:47pm 
In China they did recognise that the more developed a society is the weaker warriors it produces, so they often tried to recruit soldiers from the borders of China (such as Mongol cavalry and Vietnamese soldiers). Though they also had similar problems in the royal court with different factions hampering other factions which weakened the dynasty.

I'd say the problem wasn't the lack of a warrior caste but the problems with the Confuscian system of government.
uanime5  [author] 3 Aug, 2014 @ 5:47pm 
In Korea and China you had to undertake exams to become an officer in the military or work in the government (civil exams). In Confescian socities civil exams were more prestigous so all the talented people became bureacrates rather than generals. This made it more difficult to get good generals.

Korea also had political problems because there were multiple factions in the royal court trying to win favour for their faction and hampering other factions. So if a general supported by one faction was doing well officals belonging to other factions would try to hamper him by denying him supplies. For example despite Yi Sun Shin's great victories at sea due to pressure from opposing factions he was stripped of command of his part of the navy and imprisoned. Though after a major naval defeat he was released.
Tensacloud 2 Aug, 2014 @ 6:39pm 
Was the problem also in Korean leadership? Your explanation makes it seem like the Koreans weren't led very well. It sounds like their society also lacked a warrior caste, much like china. And like China, it sounds like they paid the price in this case, where the society that produced well trained warriors was incredibly hard to beat
uanime5  [author] 2 Aug, 2014 @ 4:07pm 
Though the Korean army was weak the navy was in better condition because the Koreans needed a strong navy to fight against the Wako. As a result the navy under Yi Sun Shin was able to inflict many defeats on the Japanese navy.

@Vercingetorix

Expanded Japan has been added to the Morning Sun mod, so you don't need to download Expanded Japan.
uanime5  [author] 2 Aug, 2014 @ 4:07pm 
@Tensacloud
I'd say the problem was more to do with Korea having over a century of peace resulting in their army declining, while Japan had a civil war that produced battle hardened soldiers. Also the Koreans initially treated the Japanese invasion like a Wako (Japanese pirate) raid by retreating from cities to the countryside. While this tactic worked against pirates who didn't want to siege anywhere it didn't work against a trained army, resulting in Japan conquering much of Korea without a fight.

As the Koreans ran away from the Japanese rather than fight them the Japanese were able to advance to the northern parts of Korea taking many cities without a fight. It wasn't until the Ming army arrived and pushed the Japanese back that the Koreans were able to reform their army to make it more effective. Gurrella attacks on the Japanese by the Righteous Army also made it more difficult for the Japanese to resupply their armies.
2_Julia Juneap 2 Aug, 2014 @ 3:42pm 
busy getting them all do i need the expanded japan mod for this or not?
Tensacloud 2 Aug, 2014 @ 12:33pm 
Isn't it that the Koreans of the period didn't have a samurai equivalent? I thought that is why Hideyoshi's invasion was successful in the first few years. It was only with massive Chinese aid that the Koreans pushed the Japanese back through sheer numbers.
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 10:32am 
oh well now I know sorry
uanime5  [author] 2 Aug, 2014 @ 9:13am 
Silla wasn't helped by the Ming as Silla united Korea in 936 but the Ming dynasty didn't exist until 1368. Silla was allied with the Tang dynasty which collapsed in 907, resulting in China being divided into the Liao dynasty and a number of kingdoms that became the Song dynasty in 960.

So Silla allied with the Tang so they could conquer their Korean rivals, then turned on the Tang to expel them from Korea. The Tang didn't surrender but they couldn't retake Korea because of internal problems and other countries kept attacking them.

Historically Korean soldiers weren't good at melee combat but were better than the Japanese in ranged combat. That's why they have weak melee infantry anf few swordsmen.
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 7:27am 
and I'll be looking foward for ur mod
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 7:27am 
more swordsmen and better spear troops cause I dont like using the monks
and The Korean Elite Infantary doesnt do very well
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 7:26am 
and pls put better units in for Korea
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 7:25am 
so whys is it a different faction
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 7:25am 
alright but the thing I dont get is Korea was united by Silla one of the 3 kingdoms, but Silla was helped by Ming's forces but after they conquered Korea of the 3 kingdoms, Silla delcared war on Ming so later on Silla defeted Ming's forces and pushed them back from their land to Ming's land and later Ming surrendered and Korea's freedom was given.
VarangianAfro 2 Aug, 2014 @ 6:18am 
the greatest in my opinion :)
uanime5  [author] 2 Aug, 2014 @ 5:52am 
The Ming dynasty was one of the dynasties that rulled China.
Bak 2 Aug, 2014 @ 5:50am 
Ming is chinense right?