No. But to be honest maybe as a prop on a map or maybe on Demo's back then it be totally fine.

demoman has rich story behind, with ups and downs, really interesting life and many stories. lets slap dynamite on his head lol that will surely reveal his character and fully show his personality. yikes

haha sure

There aren’t any developers on tf2 apart from contractors. They don’t care and in the past they have shown that. Why do you think winter 2021 was the worst case ever? Why no one liked it? Because of cosmetics like these which are tacky random and super unfitting. Why do you think winter 2022 cases was the best we’ve had in years and is still going strong? Because those were amazing items that fit the game.

If you want a higher chance of your item being added as well as getting more money from valve, pay more attention to the games art style and maybe listen to criticism

if the developer decides that it fits the game then so be it

You don’t have to listen to us but you must understand why we are criticising workshoppers like you in the workshop. So that you can make something good for the game. Make your own showcase for cosmetics that you make if you simply don’t care. Just know that whenever you put anything at all into the workshop your gonna be expected to make something people will like because other people play this game too.

That’s a pretty asshole move. The workshop for tf2 is meant for items to be added to the game. If your hobby is making stuff related to tf2 and posting it on the workshop for everyone to view then it must adhere to the audience that will pay for it when it’s added into the game. If your making this for yourself, why bother putting it on the workshop? You already know it’s gonna be criticised and people are going to tell you what they don’t like about your things. If your just putting it on the workshop just in case valve chooses to add it into the game then that’s merely selfish considering that you aren’t going to take any feedback into consideration.

i dont know why you think i make it for an audience. in the first place i make it for myself. i only create items i find cool, stuff i personally like. if you dont like it - vote no and move on. sorry but i dont give a damn if you dont want to see my stuff in the game

I don’t think it’s fair to ignore the criticism you get in this case because your ignoring the things that most people are saying. These items are made for the people so we are expected to receive submissions that fit well. This hat clearly is something the high majority of us don’t like because it’s tacky and doesn’t work.

This is the opinion from me and a lot of other commenters because we’re the ones in the end that will have to pay for this item if it ever goes into the game

And that’s completely fine.

However. I think in the case of uploading things in the workshop for an audience of people who prefer to receive things that belong in the game is criticism that artists MUST take account of. If the majority don’t like it then I believe the artists must take it into account because once again. The workshop is mostly about what everyone likes and what fits the game that it will be added in. I couldn’t care less if you made the worst cosmetics in the world as long as you don’t put in on the workshop because the whole point of the workshop is to get the items IN the game for tf2’s case

I'm not speaking on behalf of the creators of this cosmetic, as their opinions on how they deal with critiques are their own, but I wanted to address something that does bug me about how critics in the comments behave. You guys have every single right to give us your thoughts on what we create, but it's also our right to respond to them as we see fit. I see some commenters get very upset and act like us addressing or blowing off critics is us being narrow-minded or even violating freedom of speech, when in reality we're just as entitled to act on these rights as you are.

Just because we choose not to listen to every single person that has opinions on how things should be done in the workshop does not mean we're being narrow-minded; we're actively wanting to improve our crafts and get better at what we create, and when we do wish to receive critiques, we'll actively look for the ones that we do believe better us.

It should be addressed that artists do not have the obligation to listen to every single bit of criticism they hear; there're people that have opinions that vary in terms of how they can improve and it's the artist's call to pick which they do and don't want to listen to.

And I'm talking about people giving genuine critiques, too, not people being mean-spirited or just saying 'it's shit' and not having anything of value to say. Critiques are always welcomed, but at the same time, the artist is not entitled to have to listen to every single critique they receive.

It is completely fine to ignore extremely negative comments such as “shit lol” because no one really deserves that. Just remember that you’ve got talent that can make something wonderful

You shouldn’t just ignore criticism because you don’t like it, and while it may put you off just remember that the workshop is made so that these items can be added into the game for people that play it. Not for yourself. If you just say “oh well it’s Valves fault for putting it in and it’s not my fault people like it” then that’s a pretty bad excuse to just overflow the workshop with unfitting hats that no one really likes

Please please PLEASE just take a couple moments next time to think about what would be fitting for the game. Your talent is great and you could be putting it to so much better use by just taking another minute to think: “would people really appreciate this?” “Would it actually fit within the game?”

Don’t think of this criticism as a way to attack you, it’s not. I’m seriously concerned for the hats we get for the next update and so are many others.

That sort of sounds like what your saying is: “if you don’t like it, you shouldn’t point out any problems with it and just ignore it because I won’t care at all.”
This is an extremely toxic mindset to have. You’ve gotta remember that your making stuff for an audience and not for yourself. If you wanna make silly cosmetics that do t fit the game, make as many as you want, just don’t put them on the workshop because the moment you do, it means that you want valve to put the item in the game while you willingly know that there is something wrong with it.

Look. Your modelling can be put into greater use if you spent some time actually looking deeper into what would fit for the game. Your work could be great and satisfy everyone if you just took a few more seconds to study what really works with tf2’s style.

i am probably gonna say this once and for all. for a reason completely unknown to me, people tend to think that if they say they dont like the item then they give it fair crits. the thing is, you can only crit THE WAY the item is made. everything else if your personal prefference. you are free to crit me for the way i model, the way i texture, make it constructive and i will only thank you for that kind of a crit. but if you dont like the concept of the item itself then the only option you have is to vote YES or NO using default workshop features. everything else is a BS. you are very naive if you really think i am gonna stop working on something i find cool/funny only because you dont like it lol

So it’s based to leave creators clueless as to why people don’t like the item they made? So they’ll keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again?

based opinion below

People really have to stop getting so worked up over shitty items and just press the not interested button

You are free to not enjoy it, i am not forcing you to have goodd feelings about it. I am not the one who decides what is gonna end up in the game. If Valve finds it cool - it will be added.

You said earlier that the main goal of the game is to have fun. This is true, but one persons fun shouldn’t come at the expense of another’s. A lot of people play TF2 for its style and tone; it’s silly, but appropriately so, and it knows when to restrain itself. If your idea of fun is being able to wear cosmetics that don’t fit within the style and tone of the game, then why should the people who care about that need to suffer in order for you to get your enjoyment?

All the negative comments aren’t personal. People are only leaving them because they want to see good items added to the game. Making cosmetics isn’t easy, and it’s disappointing when people who know how to do it make things that very few people want.

Taken in isolation, it looks fine. If this was a prop on a map themed around a mine shaft or demolitions site, it would fit right in.

It doesn’t fit on the demos head though. Other explosive themed items for demo are worn on his chest, in place of his grenades, which makes sense since he would use them as ammunition or weapons. Wearing them on his head doesn’t make sense. If you want an indication of what people will think of this when it’s in game, look at the hat that was added in the summer case: it wasn’t nearly as extreme as this one, and at the very least it could still pass as a helmet of sorts. And yet, I don’t remember seeing it ever worn in game, even as an unusual. If nobody wants to wear that hat, I struggle to see them wearing this one considering it’s bigger than demos head and looks very out of place.

Like. I get it? But I dont understand the appeal of making just a bomb put on a demolitions experts head. He used to wear protective gear, hell his default model uses a flak vest.

Honestly if you want a genuine critique, this would work very good as a misc. as in the dynamite and charge are separated, and place on either hip

I, like many people, am tired of getting a new cosmetic crate every few months with hats that immediately fall to the bottom of the marketplace and sit and $0.10 for the rest of their life. I do also understand frustration about commenters who simply comment "trash" or "garbage" without actually offering any coherent criticism. I think sometimes workshoppers see those kinds of comments and are turned off from the rest of them (rightfully so sometimes), not willing to even look at the actual criticism people provide. It becomes an endless loop of negativity.

@Delirium1374 ‘s comment that he made is entirely correct. Artists should be focused on putting more creativity and effort on things they make as I feel that most workshoppers only make random objects cause they know it takes the least amount of effort and easiest way to make money from Valve.

While the hat is well rendered and somewhat well made (aside from the overall concept of the hat), it does not fit the game at all and a lot of artists and workshoppers motives to have a lack of creativity and care for the items that they make, which, mind you, is made for a game that people play, is very unhealthy. If your making something for an audience you must be able to satisfy the large majority, not the tiniest of tiny minority who likes every single thing submitted to the workshop.

Once again, you’ve shown to have loads of talent and potential so please use that to make more creative stuff

While the extreme minority do not reflect people who do have something meaningful to say in the comments, having to deal with people not mature enough to form a meaningful critique that isn't just reusing buzzwords without knowing the context behind them to people actively being mean-spirited to the point it's borderline harassment has left a bad taste in the mouths of a good amount of content creators to the point that a good amount of content creators do not wish to engage with the community.

As for this in regards to how workshoppers deal with comments: there has been a major increase in workshop commenters over the last couple of years and a good amount of them are tiring to deal with; while there absolutely people out there who do make an effort to make valid critiques, there're people who use this platform to be childish and insulting towards people they do not know, just because they made items they don't like. In some rare and very extreme cases, there's also been cases of workshop comments actively harassing workshoppers for these exact reasons and have actively sent death threats to some.

Real talk: I agree with the people who think that this would work way better as a backpack item, because I think that'd be a much better use of this model. As for the claims this doesn't fit the artstyle of TF2, I strongly disagree with that claim, because this really does look and feel like a model I could see on a map somewhere. TF2 is a game with a very distinct cartoony artstyle and I think there're a lot of design elements in this that absolutely reflect TF2's artstyle.

This cosmetic is tacky, sure, it doesn't fit the art style of Team Fortress 2, sure, but it's not what I have issue with. Rather, I have an issue with the fact that it has now been normalised in the Team Fortress 2 workshop community to simply dismiss any and all critiques of your work that come your way, and then pin the blame on the commenters because of your inability to handle constructive criticism as an artist.

This is shameful, and goes against what an artist should be, and only paints you to look like a child in the eyes of the community.

Please grow and change as a person.

To workshop authors, if you put your work up on a public forum space and make the conscious decision to allow comments, you are also, by extension, allowing the influx of criticism.

You knew these full well before you uploaded the cosmetic, and you were reminded of it again once the first comment rolled. You made the active choice to let criticism be heard in the comments section, and now it's not the people's fault if you don't like the comments they leave.

I am an artist and creator myself. I have been a writer for the last 3 years of my life, and I understand that criticism is important to helping creators grow and flourish in their craft. If you dismiss all criticism that comes in your way, not only are you proving yourself to be inept at evolving as an artist, you also simply make yourself look like a fool in the eyes of the internet, which is infamous for always holding things against you.

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some of you guys really need to chill, the main goal of the game is to have fun :sothappy:

some of you guys really need to chill, the main goal of the game is to have fun

Idiotic.

Hilarious

Funny random paintable object on head that's a no from me

This would make a fantastic backpack or pocket cosmetic.
This shouldn't got on his head.

Trash

This would have been better as a backpack or belt item. Please consider disciplining your creative limits and reel yourself in, especially if it means that we'd get more appropriate items than this.

sory

tbh this could've been a really cool backpack item like the chest. I personally would've loved something like that for the demo.

probs should've elaborated that my art style comment was directed at the commenters claiming this belongs in the game, but uh yeah

quality item, questionable use

Meh, we already have the Head Banger and it's not too popular, I don't think we could see a lot of people wear this either

epic cosmetic
commenter mad

stop making this ''object on merc head'' items , it's so stupid and very bad , use your brain

glad everyone liked the item

...I do kinda wonder how or why a loaded box is balanced on someone's head, but weren't object-on-head items already a thing like a decade ago?

Can't deny the tackyness and lacking combos, but you guys don't get the art style.

Horrible, this shit doesn’t belong in the game at all. “Explosive thing on boom class” does not automatically make it a good hat. It’s extremely big as well and let likely does not match with any other hat:

And for those commenters saying “commenters mad” or “commenters trying not to be rude etc,” of course we’re pretty mad. People should be getting creative and making hats that FIT the game and the art style. Not some wacky tacky random object on head. We’re just giving valid criticism.

We’re not rude because we’re giving feedback, if you make something on the workshop that’s public, expect to be criticised for your work, positive AND negative.

i think anywhere but the head would work for this
like the modelling and texture work is great but just
wrong place????

"hey guys i guess that's it"

Agreed, it can work, just not haphazardly placed onto Demo's head.