Are there any developments towards a successor yet? I have massive problems with my props and can no longer adjust their height, let alone place trees on other things. I tried the other mods like Prop Control but unfortunately it doesn't work

Is there any other solution to remove prop limit ?

@FidoClown Yes, this is unstable, and that's why there's the warning in large letters at the top of the description to not use it.

This MODE broke my game,

Yeah it would be great if a couple of these more important mods got updated. Hopefully this game finally stops be updated with mod killers

THIS STUPID THAT TELL ME DETECTED MOD FOR PROP AND TREE

May C:S 1 will no longer be updated because of the release of C:S 2.
So, if it can run on the version nowadays without errors, can I use it for a long time?

i dont undrstnd what makes this mode? i have a problem, object not reference. and how i undrstnd this mod must fix this error and my city will be saved?

According to reliable opinions, EML FIX is UNSTABLE and NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NEW GAMES, since it has a number of bugs and stability issues (It still works fine for me, however, I have a high-end PC). You can use Line Tool + Prop Tool + Tree Control + (as a replacement of ULOD) the new Visibility Control .

doesn't work with Line Tool

@forever402 거짓말 하지마.

이 모드가 harmony 2.2.2-0 모드랑 충돌 납니다.

this mod conflicts line tool

@Tayla: Even reading the description might not be helpful for people like myself who don't understand technology. For a while, I thought "Ability to Read" was a mod that did under-the-hood stuff rather than modders' snark. (I mean, it's an actual thing to download. Steam warns me I need to subscribe to it when subscribing to certain other mods and assets!)

@ptorom If you're already using it and not experiencing issues, then you should be okay to continue. However, it's not recommended for new saves due to the unresolved bugs.

@ptorom EML is stated is "instable", however, it is working fine in my city. Looking for mods in a stable combination? Check Hotels & Retreats compatible modlist.

is it safe to use this mod right now?

also I am looking to start a new save, thats why im asking

you can make a collection without the option to subscribe all, i think it would be handy just in case. also if someone doesnt read the description thats their problem. you can just put "READ DESC" in the title

@Talya No, because a collection would encourage people to just blindly subscribe to mods without reading and understanding what is needed to sucessfully transition from EML. It is NOT a simple "replace mods" situation.

Remove EML is currently in public testing. That needs to be run first. Then it depends on what functionality you were using with EML/Prop Anarchy - Prop Control and Line Tool would be the two main ones, maybe Visibility Control as well, but it depends on what you were using - again, there's not a simple answer to the situation.

Is there a workshop collection for mods that replace EML and mods like prop anarchy?

I know that there are a few mods but is there a collection for what i need to unsubscribe from and what i need to subscribe to?

@algernon very good explanation. I mean your explanation for @ifccnb. if I understand it correctly, it means that it is necessary to definitely wait for your EML remover. I assume that in the event that EML is unsubscribed using it, this situation will not occur and no props will be lost or any other problems are expected with their location or any change in their settings? correct?

@生生不息的树 There's no mod currently that changes the building limit.

Do you accidentally know what mod may help?

@生生不息的树 No, EML does not and has never changed the building limit.

Hi algernon, May I ask that does it work if I try to expand building limitation using EML and Prop Anarchy together? My city is quite huge and now I cant build and buildings anymore. Someone said that EML can help to increase building limitation. But it seems not in my city. So I would like to leave a message here. Thank you!

Cool. Thanks for clarifying. I'll just wait for "remove EML"

I got thrown off by an earlier reply.

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algernon [author] Apr 27 @ 8:05am
@Maghuro If you're not using the expanded prop limit, then you should just be able to unsubscribe. Otherwise you might need to wait for the 'Remove EML' mod to be published, which it will be once some final issues are sorted out.

@ifccnb By "prop count" I was indeed talking about the number you'd placed (number subscribed is not relevant).

The props are placed randomly throughout the buffer, not all at the start. So yes, even if you've only got 10K props, you will still lose some

So say your prop buffer with EML is currently set to 262K (4x the vanilla limit). The 10K props will be randomly distributed across the entire buffer.

When you unsusbcribe from EML, the first 65K (25%) of that buffer is preserved, but the remainder is lost, as is any prop within that extended range.

In this example, you could expect to lose 75% of your placed props. Does that make sense?

@algernon - Just to be clear. I'm not saying I have subscribed to ten thousand props. I am saying that I have placed less than 10k in props in this save. I have that mod that displays the game limits. I believe that's what you're talking about when you say prop buffer size.

The base game has a 65k prop buffer and EML extends that limit, correct? I guess what I am asking is if I am using 10k out of 65k, would it be likely that I have not even tapped into the extended buffer? And therefore safe to unsubscribe...

@ifccnb Your prop count is irrelevant; what matters is the prop buffer size you've been using. If using more than the minimum, you'll lose apprioximately that portion of props (e.g. if using the 4x limit, then 75% of your props will be lost). All prop snapping, scaling, and color info will also be lost.

@algernon - In your opinion, if I am at a prop count of under ten thousand on a save, would I be able to "safely" unsubscribe from this mod? What are the issues that I might encounter? Anything save breaking? Trying to assess if I should wait for your "remove EML" mod or just go for it...

Thanks for your continued work on these mods.

@dragonshardz: The author of the original mod doesn´t maintain his mod(s) anymore because of no time. So this is the reason why algernon do this way...

Once the Remove EML mod is published, this mod will be fully deprecated.

Which is nuts, because the original released...what, last year?

@Maghuro If you're not using the expanded prop limit, then you should just be able to unsubscribe. Otherwise you might need to wait for the 'Remove EML' mod to be published, which it will be once some final issues are sorted out.

@ClumsyGhost Highly unlikely.

@Tomahawk I think it's best already covered by the warning not to use this if you're not already using it.

@riley5cents That's a Steam Workshop download issue.

Is there anyway to remove this and continue to use my old saves?

I see the odd mention of this mod affecting plane paths, I can't get any airplane traffic to my city, is this mod the cause and any alternatives I can try?

I think its helpful to include in the description what this mod was used for and the alternatives you provide, so everyone knows what the choice is. Thanks for all the work!

does anyone else have the problem when using the Load Order Tool, ELM by Algernon does not show up. even when subscribed to this one LOT says I have the out-of-date one. hmm

@algernon Thanks that helps

@Mr. Chicken Try Prop Control as an alternative to EML/Prop Anarchy.

Hi. I want to start a new game. This one is not recommended for new games and the old one is incompatible. What can I use now? Is there any opportunity?

HI have you tried checking it with Tree Anarchy temporary fix? I installed this mod today and have gotten the error of invisible city. thanks for all the work! I hope you're doing well!

ah that explains a lot actually, my current save was before i made a park that had a lot of props. take as long as you need, i still have the save so ill gladly test when its ready!

@3r1u5 EML shouldn't affect Precision Engineering at all, and as a personal user of Precision Engineering myself, I can confirm it works fine with Prop Control.

If you've expanded the prop buffer size then that save will require EML to load properly, yes. I'm hoping that 'Remove EML' will be able to recover peoples saves, but I still need to adjust some things before I'm comfortable releasing it, and I can't guarantee recovery in all cases.

(and thanks!)

does this affect precision engineering? ive been using precision with all my saves without isssue, though on its steam page it seems to have some issues, i didnt encounter any. i recently switched from this and propanarchy to prop control and i guess it was the final straw for precision lol, will the remove eml be able to recover that save, just wondering honestly. i had a backup im able to load but the save immediately after the switch just wont load, im not asking for a fix ik precision is 2y out of date, im mostly wondering if eml would have affected precision in any way, also if anyone is switching and uses precision engineering keep that in mind. thank you Algernon for going so hard when you dont need to, dont think we would have as much fun with this game without you and everyone else putting so much into your mods! its sincerely appreciated. i hope youre doing well and please take care of yourself!!

Hi Algernon! Thanks so much for all you do! Any progress on this mod? I still can't get the game to load - 20 minutes of looking normal and then back to the top screen in Steam with no warning.

@Horning That was a bug in an earlier version. Make sure that your current download is up-to-date, starting with unsubscribing/resubscribing.