chris chan

this is fire, i will cross my figners and pray as hard as i can that valve adds this, defo gonna buy it if they do.

There’s enough contrast between slate and red (with red being brighter) to warrant it not getting too blurry (especially with how tf2 maps are often lit, slate will look like dark green on further distances).

While we are aware of how large paint regions can affect an item, we made sure to make it so you can identify the engineer even with the worst paints applied.

The shoulders, while they have stripes. Aren’t paintable on the top and and bottom, making sure that the paintable part is enclosed by team colors.

Same happens with the torso. Even if looking from the back, you’re quite likely to notice the red sweater and red segments on the shirt before you register slate.

However, If the item was to get in and cause too many issues, we’d adjust it accordingly

@Yakuza Merkitzi
Well yeah but the paints i mentioned could make it *harder* to identify at quick glances due to them muddying/blurring the line of color domination. I wouldn't complain if the paint regions were made to be duller so that the controversial paints like slate and mannco orange arent as bright to not dominate the base team colored stripes. The misliad sweater cosmetic is similar but makes the paintable stripes more toned down

@The Mr. Katze the II
That would just cause a huge amount of team confusion among players if you only make it Black & White.

How do you expect us to make it only black and white

NO NO DONT MAKE IT PAINTABLE ATLEAST MAKE IT ONLY BLACK AND WHITE.

@Gravel Mercenary
If the team colored stripes are Red, he is on RED Team.
If the team colored stripes are Blue, he is in BLU team.

Thats how i'd say you recognize them the best if the Slate color is painted on em. paying attention to the team colored stripes

Could we see a promo image with all the paints applied? i love the cosmetic but kinda worried a red engie with similar to slate or blue engie with mannco orange will mess with team recognition

I honestly like the paint region on the stripes. if the collar was only paintable i woudn't find the paint region that interesting at all. just my opinion.

I made the paint variants images for the Mislaid Sweater on the Wiki :). Although I may not do for the Pardner Polo if it gets in, I hope it gets in, though! So far the two revealed styles are pretty cool.

On the contrary we like that item and it’s paint options so I think we have to agree to disagree

I'm not exactly a fan of that cosmetic either. Believe me I do love this collection, it's just i feel like at least with engineer this could've been the collar or even the "belt". The Mislaid Sweater just kinda had nothing else to paint

On top of that, there are already similar items for other classes that have similar paint regions, such as:
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mislaid_Sweater

Because we believe it doesn’t make his team unrecognisable

WHY did you decide on that paint region? I was hoping you'd keep it on the collar. Half his shirt is literally recolerable.

I hope that with each day the engineer in the thumbnail gets progressively happier

Where's Engie? by Martin Handford.