@thattakeover You could try "Gender Law Expanded"

Thanks, can't wait for the update, considering it currently Fs up the GUI and I see this mod as a must have.

Would have to be a separate mod or a more comprehensive one, as things stand Realm laws govern the gender for Concubinage / Polygamy, Faith / Culture only governs if they are enable and this mod doesn't mess with Realm law at the moment.

Im rying to find a mod that will let me set my religion to equal, have concubines, but only for men. want it under the marriage type instead of realm laws.(like the harem laws mod) As i wont be able to control all rulers who have my religion. idk if you can add this in

Happy to hear! You Rock : )

Yeah, there's definitely an update coming, apologies on the wait. An AGOT compatch is almost certainly more work than I want to take on in terms of maintenance so probably not, if someone wants to create / maintain one feel free to reach out and I'll provide what help I can though.

Is there any chance for an update, or and AGOT compatch?

is there an agot patch?

Yeah, wait for update!

Same as Belfrigex I was searching around my 10 pages list of mods for what could be the reason for my problem and never expected that it would be this one. It was always solid for me, take your time GOAT

Yeah hopefully this one is fixed soon, great mod aside from the weird bug.

I was surprised lol, I went through my whole mod list and never expected this to be this one doing it. Keep up the good work though!

I definitely wouldn't have expected it to work given the introduction of Tributaries but I also certainly didn't expect it to break like that, I'm working on Spouse Designer first but I think this is next after that ( and probably the trivial sub mods of Spouse Designer ) ).

Currently breaks the family and vassal menu by forcing them both open at once.

Tenets are loaded as a block , so you can only ever have one complete set of tenets active at a time, there's no way to add individual tenets or overriding a specific tenet, it's all or nothing ( which is very annoying but that's how Paradox did it).


This mod changes the Rite tenet so that it works correctly with this mod (otherwise the Polygamy vs Monogamy Rite restriction wouldn't work )

One question if you don't mind: Why does this mod include a version of doctrine_core_tenets = {} (The kemd00_core_tenets file)? I'm trying to add a custom tenet of my own to my game, which as far as I know requires messing with that block, but I'm not sure what your version does. As far as I know, you're editing doctrines, not tenets.

There'll be a bit of a delay to me updating my mods for 1.15 , I thought the maintenance patch would come with the Steppe not the Clothing pack. I have no time this week and probably not next week (?) but I might be able to push some of my other projects that are in a more stable state than CK3 stuff back a bit to fix this mess if things turn out well.

the mod needs updating, love the mod though!

Well the mod works for AGOT but it heavily impact the Dragons mechanic for some strange reason

Then it's a different mod that also overwrites the opinion modifier assignment to use a check that's incompatible with this mod.

I don't have Rajas of Asia though?

Mod incompatibility probably Rajas of Asia.

I keep getting a -15 opinion penalty from my spouse because I'm "Blaspheming our Marriage", but I have concubines selected, and Male adultery is accepted. What's going on?

Yeah I had kind of expected that to be the answer.

@skibum019

I would not expect it to, since AGOT alters some of the marriage functions to allow for the Blood of the Dragons exception to the normal marriage tenets.

Does this work with AGOT?

Nothing, the game mechanics only let any given character have a single betrothal at a time (think of it as each character only having 1 "slot" for a betrothed )

So I have polygamous doctrine, can marry to as many spouses as I need, but apparently can't betrothal more than a one child. What might be the problem here?

*hmmmm* It'd be possible within the context of this mod (add appropriate concubinage doctrine to all polygamous faiths at game start), it wouldn't really be possible while trying to stay close to base game though, the spouse / concubine limit are set as doctrine_parameters and those can't be changed dynamically in game.

all right, thank you

coming back to what @Sneax said awhile ago, isn't there the possibility to make a game rule that automatically gives a certain number of concubines to all faiths that already have the polygamy doctrine. It would be very historically accurate since pretty much all faiths that historically sanctioned polygamy also allowed male slave owners to have intercourse with their female slaves, i.e concubinage.

@sokotofalcon
You have a mod conflict.

the concubine doctrines do not allow for the interaction offer concubine and offer truce concubine and there is also a -1000 modifier for arranging marriage with any landed ruler once you have any of the new doctrines.

There were only a few blasphemous union negative opinion penalties when I was the Faith's original founder but after I became the heir the negative opinion just sky rocketed.

@jmjurassic07
You can a conflicting mod that restores the old opinion modifier check, probably Raja's of Asia (I think every report so far has been that mod). I have it down to make a comp patch for that when I have the time.

I'm getting negative opinion due to blasphemous union even though we are of the same faith.

You have a mod conflict then, that's either restoring the old marriage checks or the old marriage doctrines (or something very similar to them ). Raja's is a super common culprit if you're using that.

@kalanyr Yes but it's always the case when i retire all marriage concubines doctrine, and add mine, i have always malus for blasphemy of the marriage

The correct order is to remove the current marriage/concubine doctrines (if you're going to change them) then add the ones you want.

@kalanyr

Thank you, i have tried, but when i add in command the doctrine that combined both, it add it as an mariage type in the faith doctrines, but the original doctrine of marriage previous in again active, so i have a malus when i have concubines for exemple. do you know how to correct it ?

It would be possible, Soulmate is just a relationship but it's way out of scope for this mod, which is only about things related to marriage. It would also be fairly messy because you'd have to change anything that can make you a soulmate to remove the check for having only one.

Would it be possible to change the number of soulmates allowed and to make having soulmates shunned or celebrated? I understand if that's not something you're interested in.

@Sneax
So long as you adjust the game rules correctly, yes it allows combining Spouse and Concubine doctrines.

@kalanyr

"I see, so this mod theoretically allows combining both doctrines, right? And I would just need to change the doctrine at the start of the game?"

Not within the game normally, but you can do so by adjusting doctrines in debug mod or via making a game start script or via making a decision that adjusts the doctrines.

For a few weeks now, I've been looking for a way to combine the doctrine of concubinage + polygamy for islamic faith, not by reform. Is there a way of doing this?

@kalanyr love you for updating this! Rebuilding my collection for RTP and stoked to have your mods back! If you care, the penultimate changelog entry says 2020
(holy shit, you never get the chance to use the P word!)

alright , thank you ! sorry for the inconvenience

@RainbowCrow23
I'm fairly confident you've got a mod conflict. I just tested this and mixed religions do have access to Offer Concubines (make sure you fully extend out all menus since it was hidden in the ... for me ) and also do take Concubines though .... not as quickly as you'd like, they go for appropriate number of spouses first and then fill in concubines if they can but there's generally not enough women at game start so after about a decade they've made half their court positions into Concubines and still only have 2.

@RainbowCrow23
Thanks, I'll look into it for offering Concubines ( I probably need to update a decision to a new format or something). I'd expect mixed AI to take concubines less often ( mostly only as many as they need for Prestige ) because the checks for wanting a Spouse/Concubine are mostly similar and Spouses have higher priority.

you cant offer concubine if you have mixed doctrines and also the ai doesnt seem to take concubines