Heya, just reporting a small issue. In the recipes for the blood packs you're referencing <RequiredItem identifier="saline" />, this _will_ work, but we've been doing some testing and some players (myself included) experience serious lag when the item name rather than ID is referenced in recipes.
Swapping it to <RequiredItem identifier="antibloodloss1" /> should resolve the lag issue.

@Dornam I think I found the 'conflict' with NT Eyes. In your override to NT's blood pressure update function, you don't have a check to add the affliction if it doesn't exist. This becomes apparent with Eyes enabled, since that mod adds a screen overlay if blood pressure is low (or nonexistent).
This is what base Neurotrauma does:
-- fix people not having a blood pressure
if not HF.HasAffliction(c.character,i) then HF.SetAffliction(c.character,i,100) end

I added that and tested it, and it seems to have been fixed.

@shiftey1r can't as in there's no recipe for it, or the recipe doesn't work?

There should be a recipe that takes O type plasma and O- type red blood cells to make O- blood packs.

Hey hey, i've noticed an issue. For some reason i cannot craft O- blood packs. Is this intentional?

Well, I know nothing about NT eyes, so I'm not going to go digging in another mod for it, though you are the second person that has mentioned NT eyes conflicting with bloodwork, so I don't doubt that it does conflict.

If you or someone else finds a fix, I'll gladly add it to this mod, but I really have no interest in NT eyes.

Sorry i just realised i forgot to mention that this bug was about nt eyes and this mod. It happens only when i use Nt eyes. I thought the issue was with Nt bloodwork. my bad

I haven't had time to investigate this, but I can tell you that I used this mod 3 days ago with no blood pressure issues, so perhaps investigate your mods and see if there's a conflict, or a mod load order issue. Otherwise, I'll look at the mod when I get around to it.

If you could somehow make it give you a blood pressure value at the start of the game it would be awesome

@Asutu I'll take a look, but I haven't changed anything with this mod for a long time. If neurotrauma fork changed something about how lua blood pressure works, maybe something is wrong there, but otherwise, the only blood pressure bug I know of I listed as a known bug in the description.

@Dornam Nt blood work destroys the blood pressure value, it cannot be measured even with a hemotology analyzer, and if a blood bag is used, the blood values reappear and the screen starts to glow again. If blood work does not destroy the blood value, it can work together with nt eyes. Perhaps you can update the mod to set the blood pressure to 100 at the beginning of the game. That could fix it.

@bermangolu A quick fix for that is to use empty blood bag to restore back the brightness. That is what worked for us.

Yeah idk why it would cause this issue. All I know is that the issue only arises if I use this mod with NT Eyes, regardless of load order or other mods. It doesn't look like NT Eyes is affecting any of the features of Blood work, so I assumed the issue was with this mod.

@Bermangolu wut... Well, given that I'm assuming NT eyes has stuff in it that affects your screen view, I'd assume that it's a NT eyes problem? There's nothing in NT blood work that affects your screen.

The only things that this mod does is add/modify recipes, add the "blood plasma" affliction, which does what the description of this mod says it does, adds a lua hook to make the blood plasma item work, and modifies the lua for blood pressure, burns, & neurotrauma.

If NT eyes touches those things, then it's a possibility that they have an incompatibility, but I have zero knowledge of what NT eyes is or does.

I'm experiencing a weird incompatibility with this mod and NT Eyes, where this mod causes the brightness of the screen to decrease by about 50% and stay that way. Neither mod causes this issue on its own.

Ah, I suppose I should change that. It'd still work with old neurotrauma if it still worked though, seeing as I haven't changed anything with this mod since before the fork.

this still links to the old neurotrauma as a required download instead of the new fork.

@JustKyo Yes

does this work with the fork?

understandable. If i get something i will provide it to you. But later.

@Kardagan Feel free to volunteer some sprites then. I'm trash at art, so all mine are usually recolors or minor changes to existing images.

I mean this mod need better sprites than now.

@Kardagan How do you mean?

Awesome mod. Item sprites need to be updated.

Huh? The blood packs from the medic talent are normal O- blood packs that you can use normally.

But whatever, you do you.

Oh no, completely understandable. But I figured that I might as well do that since my main supply of blood packs comes from spawned ones from a perk, rather than ones actually drawn. So I figured if I can't use them normally, might as well use them to craft blood plasma with (I made a blood plasma recipe as well). Plus in the crafting recipe I've added some more material requirements so kind of a higher risk-higher reward scenario whilst basically completely ignoring the normal blood packs

It probably has to do with how vanilla blood packs are converted to neurotrauma blood packs when they spawn, and directly spawning them with commands might not do that properly.

Why are you making plasma reduce blood loss? IRL, plasma can't actually replace red blood cells, seeing as it missing the red blood cells is what makes it a bag of plasma instead of blood.

Bloodloss in neurotrauma represents missing RBC + blood volume, while blood pressure is only the liquid volume in your veins, so while bloodloss and blood pressure are related, they're not directly the same. If you don't have enough red blood cells, your body can't distribute oxygen properly, even if there is proper blood pressure, which is why blood plasma shouldn't help cure blood loss, only raise blood pressure, since it doesn't have red blood cells in it.

Right, tested it again further. Seems like any spawned blood pack (antibloodloss2) doesn't work when applied, and the other blood pack can't even go into my inventory anyway. However! If I extract blood with an empty blood pack, it works for some reason. I don't know how or why, but it does. Regardless, I'll just edit the stuff on my side and make the plasma packs also reduce blood loss, so it's whatevs

Yep, works on the sub editor. Just reloaded into the save and works there as well. No idea what might've caused the bug. Thanks for the help! All the best

One of those is a remnant from neurotrauma when Mannatu was making a separate blood bag instead of overriding antibloodloss2, so it's obsolete. The other one currently works for me when I tested it after taking some blood with an empty blood bag. Try placing one in the sub editor and see if it works when you test it.

Hi, me again! :P
Having a similar-ish issue as with the other mod. This one's a weird bug though. I'm trying to get and apply O- blood packs, however I have two types of them loaded in the game from just this mod (using sandbox menu in order to see their IDs and filter out other mods' content).

I have one that's called "bloodpackominus" and when I spawn it, I can't pick it up and it doesn't spawn in my inventory. I have a 2nd one called "antibloodloss2" which I can interact with and apply, but it doesn't reduce the blood loss at all. Any chance you might have a look at this? Let me know if you need any extra info

Currently works for me. I know that the manna buildables mod has caused problems before, Check if you have that loaded, or if you placed this mod below neurotrauma in the mod load order.

You can use identifiers or names in recipes. Just checked myself, and it still works in game with saline instead of antibloodloss1 in the blood cell culture recipe.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what your problem would be. The mod currently functions as it's supposed to on my pc.

Red blood cell cultures are not found in medical fabricator, and I think saline is a wrong identifier

We figured it out. If anyone is experiencing what StarryGhost was, it's the manna buildables mod that's the problem.

@StarryGhost I'm not sure what you mean. Do the items have no name? I can't replicate your issue if so. Do you have a screenshot you could link me showing what you're seeing?

Also, check to make sure you have this mod above neurotrama on your mod list.

The types of blood plasma and red blood cell cultures arn't labeled is there something im missing?