@someusername6 how come you're not planning to rebalance the cost-effectiveness? Have you gotten other feedback that these are balanced, or do you just not want to risk making them overpowered and don't want to spend a ton of time balance testing for it? I completely understand either way, just wondering which reasoning it is, largely because if someone else found a way to use them cost-effectively I'd love to know about it.

I personally have found these to be about half the cost effectiveness of a HEKP warhead, which means that unless I'm missing something, they don't seem to have any real purpose besides maybe taking out massive missile swarms or craft swarms.

Nvm you answered my question below, I'll check that out.

How does the damage for these work? They seem incredibly hit and miss. A 100pt nuke hit the equivalent of a sprinter in PRISM and it... survived? Huh!?

This is a thing!??? I was just thinking it would be so cool if someone added a missile that could have the same effect as a reactor bloom, but apparently it's existed for years lol.

@Fairy I'm not sure. Are you sure you are using mod version 0.5.1? There were a few false starts before I fixed bugs that made missiles work when launched from craft.

Curiously, craft-mounted nukes still don't work for me. Could this be a mod conflict issue, or is it somehow because I designed and mounted the missile before you bugfixed or something weird?

@Anomaly, thank you again for sharing your feedback. At this time, I’m not planning to rebalance the cost-effectiveness of these warheads. The listed damage is measured at the center of the blast and diminishes with distance, and the blast also has armor penetration built in, similar to the reactor blooms in stock.

If you’d like to dig deeper into the mechanics or adjust them yourself, the mod’s code and assets are open to the public. You can find more details in this guide: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3110915492

Nuclear warheads off of aircraft seem to work now, though nuclear warheads in general appear to still be doing only 4% of the listed damage despite the armor penetration change, which really bites with how expensive they are. Maybe the blast needs armor penetration itself if it doesn't already? Either way the damage reduction is consistent with how armor interacts with attacks that are too weak to be effective.

@Anomaly added the same armor penetration stats as the corresponding warheads; I am not convinced it is enough of a change to change price points.

Also updated reporting errors so that it works when launched from aircraft phase; there is still a bug where the damage is not correctly reported on the after report, but at least now they detonate without red text.

when the enemy has 200 barracudas but my balestra is set to self destruct on target loss:

Sounds good. I also want to point out that nuclear warheads launched from aircraft phase through the target without impacting. Error reads "InvalidCastException: Specified cast is not valid.". Not sure where I could provide the full log if you need it

@Anomaly that's a fair point -- the armor penetration should likely be similar to the HE impact warhead for the contact version, and to blast frag for the proximity fuze. Give me some time to test it and see if costs need to change before I roll this out.

Just tested the prox fuse version, it seems to have the same problem. ~200k damage only turned out to be ~7k, just about 4% of the total damage potential and not nearly enough to sink a large ship in one go

the contact fuse nuclear warhead has 0cm of armor penetration, which appears to be minimizing its damage even though the blast damage is really high

this mod has now been updated; I am slowly working through my mods (IRL stuff means it will be a bit slow)

update would be nice

will there be update yes or no?

This mod is loads of fun, thank you so much for making it! <3

good to know, thanks

@michigancubed there is a sharp dropoff from the center of the area of the blast, yes.

I know it's not supposed to be balanced but 10k+ damage for even a size 1 warhead is a bit silly, that or the blast is much too large. Does the damage fall off *sharply* from the center or does it only have incremental damage fall offs?

Thank you

@Nyx -- just updated, should be working now

Broken as of today's update, big errors on startup

THE GLOW! THE WONDERFUL GLOW!

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*tanc a lelek intensifies*

Just a little inquiry, does the nuclear explosion destroy missiles as well, for example, let's say I had I cluster missile and it was full of nuclear warheads, when one of the cluster warheads detonate, would it destroy the other missiles. ( Definitely not combining the halo mod and this one, never)

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nice mod i am really in love but i went to the testing range with a solomen and wanted to fire MK65 250 mm nuke from the mount to and it exploded in my ship and i was standing still. oppi would be proud and shocked

with love and kisses Philipp

this plus the shields mod might actually be semi balanced in a shitpost way

nuclear containers are hilarious. 3+km blast radius because why not?

The explosion bug is fixed but I have an issue where sometimes nuclear shells are detonating inside cannon barrels.

I can confirm that detonations are only visible to the multiplayer host. Hopefully this bug can be fixed because this mod is hilarious

@Parval thanks for the bug report, I will take a look

the nuclear detonations don't seem to be visible to anyone but the host in multiplayer

Now if only we could have nuclear bomb pumped laserheads

WARCRIME
START OF A NUCLEAR WAR

Me, when the Admiral isn't looking:

Man, I can't wait to use these (f**k balance) in a single-player conquest mode

SWAG MESSIAH

LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS

Use of nuclear weapons is forbidden.

Imagine playing by the rules. Press the red button, glory to the Protectorate!

Baby you're a fireeeeewooorks!