Heads up for anyone with a puppeted prisoner that isn't converting into a colonist;
I had to prisoner->release him before he actually joined the colony.

In the past they just auto-converted for me.

imagine beating a colony defenses to submission just to have 20 dudes jump out of nowhere and go boom on you and your troops

Me, taking control of RFK Jr. after communicating with The Worm:

@reann shepard I hope this mod gets an update for 1.6 when it comes out!

Hello guys, love the work you do however why does this mod cause so many memory leaks upon usage? Very incompatible with large mod-lists which is fair but I mean this is WOW.

Found this out the hard way through the Dubs discord.
Pls remove.
Have a great day xoxo
*purrs softly*

Psycaster puppet has access to psycasts. Jumping to puppet overwrites psycasts. Too bad you can't take their powers.

anyone knows that happens if your puppet becomes a psycaster after becoming a puppet? or what happens when you make a psycaster your puppet?

Does anyone know if mind jump transfers the users royal titles aswell? Or are they bound to the original body?

This mod still work well,

ascension is wildly op even for a vpe mod

Unfortunately this mod no longer works. I tried this mod by itself with only the prerequisite mods you need for this one to function, vanilla expanded framework and psycasts expanded. Even if I could start a new game and play it, after I save and exit, the next time I come back something has completely broken and it's different almost each time. Pawns or menus just missing, not being able to click anything, the whole map just being grey. Without fail, this has been my experience for over 100 hours. This mod is busted unfortunately

I got insulted by my puppet, which proceed to hit itself in a social fight.

When my puppeteer mind jumped into the body of another psycaster, the new hosts original psycasts remain available for use in the hotbar but do not appear unlocked in the psycast menu. When I mind jumped back to the original body both bodies psycasts are available for use but still do not show as unlocked in the psycast menu.

Using devmode it seems psycasting trees do not unlock but the psycasts within the tree remain learned.

An error started to occur in which the doll could not eat or get out of prison.(I use Vanilla mods only)

Have you ever heard the tale of Sir Henry the Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Archotechs would tell you.

The Puppeteer Psychic Path is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

Apologies but how does summon puppet work exactly? Using it on a puppet has done nothing

Possibly incompatible with CE, as this is not listed in their "Compatible Mods" list. I'm too inexperienced with modding in general to risk testing it out.

Is there a way to disable the visual distortion that happens when a puppet dies? It gets really annoying when I can't even see the rest of the battlefield.

turkwise as most ve series do not ecpect balance in these mods. i make my own patches several days each new update.

My puppeteer used ascension on a fresh puppet and got 8 psycast levels all at once, is it intended to get that much experience?

mimic, puppets are just vessels, so they all have their orijinal mind's mental state. the mod is right

I think my puppets ate my guests.. so be careful during a blood moon if your puppet master is a Sanguophage, every puppet went into blood feeding mode and snacked on them, don't think its supposed to happen but I'm going to test it a few more times lol

Okay turns out it's because the prisoner was wounded when I used it so don't try to puppet a wounded prisoner lol

So I tried to use puppet on a brain leeched prisoner and they instantly died. The cause was "puppet." Am I just dumb is that like how it's supposed to work? I can't get them to do anything and it says I have an "unburied colonist." I may be dumb sorry.

can puppets have psylinks and abilities of their own? if yes how does that interact with mindjump and ascension?

I really like the abilities in fashion, but it seems sad that the death of the puppeteer destroys the entire network of puppets. I lack a way to automatically move into a puppet when I die. for example, marking a puppet with a skill for a day and moving consciousness into it at death. Does anyone know if there is a similar modification of this mod?

I think that's actually a creepjoiner downside. was it a creepjoiner?

@[Kinky] Kiwi it might be a "vanilla events expanded" mod event.

Is there anyway for a pawn to keep its puppet status through death? I have death refusal on a couple of my puppets but when they die thye just get paralysed for 30 days as soon as the revive because its broken out of being a puppet.

That's not a base game mechanic. No idea.

My first puppet eventually ditched the colony with a prompt that said "-Colonist- thanks you for your hospitality, but says that it is time for him to move on." Really confused how this even happened. Had to toss him in prison and recruit him back. Very weird.

@icosahedron32 and the solution to my problem is found.

[level 50 psylink in less than a year]

Ascention is pretty unbalanced, but other than that pretty solid addition.

Love Puppeteers so much!

Is it able to get some lovin with puppets? If not, will you make it able to?

Yes indeed. I popped into dev mode and spawned a psychically deaf hussar. I was able to puppet him after giving him Eltex gear that boosted his sensitivity to 20%

He keeps the puppet status once you give it to him, even if the sensitivity goes back to 0% (unequipping items)

@nick1012 if you find any apparel or other way to increase their psychic sensitivity above 0%, then probably yes.

Can I make phychic-deaf pawns into puppets?

Puppets-warcasket copy master's trait and it lost warcasket-trait, so they can work again.

Not sure if this is intended, but I don't think it is. While Puppet Swarm can be used from another location on the world map, Summon Puppet cannot, I think because it requires the puppet to be targeted. Obviously you cannot click on them, as your view is locked to the map that the puppetmaster is on in order to cast it. I tried clicking on the pawn from the colonist bar at the top, but this does not activate the ability. Is it possible to add the ability to summon 1 puppet at a time from a remote map? I am not familiar with the functions it uses for psycast targeting, so am unsure how that might be accomplished for a single target ability.

Ohhh- a few more pages back and I see that wild men count as animals, hence why the skills cannot affect them. Case closed!

@Oskar Re: that comment about wild men a few pages back. I used "Degrade" on a raider and arrested him, so he is now my prisoner. However I can't use brain leech or any other "colonist or prisoner"-related psycast on him. Is this done on purpose to avoid easy puppeteering or is it a bug?

That, and a way to add another type of relationship type between the puppet and the caster. (this could be precept-based with an ideology patch?)

I wish there was a version of this based on biotech instead of royalty, so a pawn with a puppeteer gene could control a pawn with a puppet gene. (I want to use this with insectors or similar for a eusocial hive mind)

My puppet leader/melee god had a tantrum, which put his two puppet bruisers in a tantrum as well. They used their 1) Relic monosword, 2) Masterwork monosword, and 3) masterwork zeushammer to ravage the base and destoy so, so much equipment.

When I use Puppeteer on a brain leech'd prisoner, they remain a prisoner. They're a thrall, but they remain a prisoner.

is there a way to make this work with the isolationist ideology? it says i cant only use some of the things on colonists slaves or prisoners but it dosent look like i can get prisoners

I was wanting to use this to do a rogue AI scenario where an awakened android spreads around taking over other androids. But even with another mod to let androids have 100% psy-sensitivity I still cant use puppet powers on androids. I tested other powers like age drain and burden and they work.
I assume there's a reason for this specific limitation. but just encase I thought i would ask about it.

I've noticed that new puppets will simply have their skill levels copied from the puppet-master. Is there a way to have the experience bars, between puppet and master, linked so that when the puppet gains experience so will the master and vice versa? It drivers me nuts when the puppets gain a skill and the master doesn't. Kind of like the Vx chips from Android Tiers.