Heartbreaking that this is STILL the only trace of ABH we have on modern cossy

I wonder if you could port the guns from ABH. I would try but im not tech savy. and would probably end up blowing up a nearby star by mistake

D:

Quick correction, The heavy drop suits are cured if no drag is on the smaller ones are still goobered :(

The no drag mod fixes the current issue for whatever reason! For anyone wanting to sacrifice drag for this mod.

Ah i see, well good luck on your endeavors

It is I guess? The thing is that I feel relatively burnt out from Cosmoteer modding, and I still haven't fixed the part where the dropsuits bug out like crazy because lateral thrust is gone.

is it possible to add some kind of mech? Assuming you are actively still working on this mod.

@rtw4twtefeswerwer Sadly no, until Vanilla Cosmoteer adds in ship boarding (It's on the roadmap!) there will be no boarding from these dropsuits either.

I don't know if this is in but what if the suits could invade a ship

Smth from abh made it over to modern? Well, congrats

Please add a Way to make them fly around independantly so that they will not just stick to a ships side

can we have decoupler ? i dont want install other mod

how to recover dropsuit ?

Hey downloading this mod as I type, I just thought of this but by any chance will we see any gundam-themed suits?

So I tested your mod and everything is balanced beautifully internally. i.e. suit vs suit. However they are still moderately OP. I'd cut all firepower by 1/3rd.
The best way to test this yourself is to use the AI autobattler and pit your suits vs built in combat ships.

To make it easier, try downloading my mod which wont interfere with anything else, just adds stuff. Use my explosive structure AI to connect your suits together into groups and save as a ship. That way you can add 25 suits with 1 click. They separate automatically upon start of combat.

Its pretty entertaining to watch them fight and how they are better or worse vs different ships.... but they definitely wreck ANYTHING of comparable cost, and can usually take things twice their cost.

I can make a custom stat for it and include the interval/ammo storage. Didn't earlier since I was going to play with a friend.

The two reloader thingy was an experiment considering the way I play around with things. Often I would leave my dropsuits on auto-fight and thought about how they would be stuck in the fight firing really low amounts of shots every second, so I added the big reloader per long while.

Thanks! If I, good lord, ever come around to making a 3x3 dropsuit, I might use "bulkier" terms like Fortress, Juggernaut or Bulwark.

Myeah, dropsuits are too jittery for things like stabilized turrets. I'll think of adding a collider too.

Good luck on your mod, man!

I think the reload/overheat is cool but you need to document it in the part description. Also, you have TWO reloaders in the PD version for example. One gives 10 per 1.5 seconds which is good. The other gives 90% reload every 4 seconds which doesnt really make sense. So the bar graph ticks up slowly then jumps to max all the sudden. Looks like the same with the other gunnery ones. Id remove the big reloader and maybe buff the smaller one to 10 every second.

I like the differentiation between Striker, Defender, and Bruiser. Shield is a nice touch.

Good call removing the turret-effect on miner. I'd do the same with the others tbh.
As a compromise you can add a small TurretCollider as a partial blocker. This allows lines of squads but hampers blocks of them a bit.

COol. Looking forward to it. Iwas trying to make my own minifighters and what a pain! THey shoot backwards and from seemingly random points, etc. You did a heck of a nice job on this with all the animations, great graphics and it functions so well. My stuffs a lot more janky!

@joemama1512 - Check out the change notes, see what I've done so far! There might be some things I've missed, though, so do tell me.

Looking forward to it! I might make little mini-fighters that are similar in style.

B.1/2: Sure. Might do personal tweaks like give PD extra firing angle or something.
B.3: Addressed in A.3 - They'll moderately generate a fake ammo that gets consumed per shot.

C.1: Haha, I actually just made that one for fun. Like a goon to fight when controlling a dropsuit.
C.2: Sure.
C.3: Sure. It does have vs shield damage, but I sucked (more) at editing at the time so it crashed when I tried to let the shield damage stat show up.
C.4: Sure.

I'll start with these things when I recover, or get the energy

in order of comments:

A.1: Addressed in A.3
A.2: Sure. Ontop of that, I think a fun idea is making all of the dropsuits explode flammably on death. Since they're all flammable already, this could hurt the whole "block of dropsuits" thing.
A.3: I've figured out a way to add "overheating" due to a method used in General Munitions. I can have it generate a fake resource that runs dry without having to use energy as the ammunition, so that if they run out of ammo they won't lose control/thrust.

Cragged version.. Meh. Maybe just remove and replace with a Sniper version. 3000 cost, similar stats to above. Has 160 range, 200 damage per shot, 1 shot per second.

Mining version: 4000 cost. 80 range. 100 beam damage per second. 100k vs asteroids. Definitely needs to block as they can shoot through armor/ships/etc.

Heavy combat laser suit: Cost 10k. Damage down to 60 per hit from 180. Cut disruptor damage in half. Add vs shield damage.

Heavy kinetic suit - similar nerfs as machine gun version. Or heat cooldown period.

So for the basic laser dropsuit dude: I would increase cost to 2500 and reduce its damage from 150 per hit to 40. (DPS of 200 for both lasers). That way its not better than an actual laser three times its size.

PD dude: Cost 2500. 10 damage. 40 shot damage. Overall weaker than a PD gun which makes sense.

Machine gun version: 2500 cost. 20 dmg per shot. 400dps. Your version pauses every 20 shots or so. Increase that pause to like 10 seconds, like the gun overheats or something. So more burst damage, but cant constantly fire.

First big issue is that cannons/guns are non-energy weapons that require ammo and loading instead. These guns have infinite ammo and no loading and no volatility, so you are giving them a lot of extra damage by basing them on cannon damage, but without any drawbacks.

Second big issue is that you can make giant blocks of dudes and they all concentrate firepower and can shoot through each other easily. So if they blocked each other by setting the ignoreLowLOS=false or whatever, this would balance them a lot more.

Adding ammo would allow for more firepower but the suit would run dry and need reloading like any other ammo-based gun. Or they just run out of ammo after a while and stop shooting. Both options are not very user friendly though, so Im thinking just slower shooting weapons, or guns that "overheat".

Sorry, I completely get what you mean.
Sick right now so I can't think right, though.
Can you tell me what I can change without expression?

By the way, my fighter expansion mod DOES have explosive structure parts you can use to separate these battlesuits. I have a manual release version as well as one with a fake 600 range gun that will trigger the explosion. It wont damage the suits.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3018217021

I REALLY like the idea of this mod, but can you take another look at balance? I mean, they are INSANELY overpowered. For 2000 bucks I can get a 1x3 laser. Does a whopping 500 DPS and needs power.
OR, pay 1200 bucks and get a 1200 DPS machine gunner dude. Oh wait.. hes got TWO OF THEM for 2400 DPS. Without any pesky ammo requirement.

The PD dude has TWO PD guns for 1000 bucks, same as a regular PD gun cost.

Normal mining lasers at 6k each? That do 640DPS at short range? Forget that! Ill take FOUR mining dudes for the same price, each one spitting out 900 DPS instead!

Its like 2 dudes with pistols hanging off a tank and doing more damage than the tank main gun!

I get it... I made the fighter components expansion mod and you want your small parts to have an actual impact on the game so if you scaled them all the way down, they would be useless. But theres got to be a middle ground.

Oh :'(

@Lufian But my art skills suck! I'm using game assets for this mod.

If you can make this, you can make fighters and bombers

@kOiGuh Okay.
I'm also going to backport General Munitions' effects to their old versions, because I'm going to do a second release of the mod so that it has a prettier thumbnail.

I know that you most likely won't. But can you make a separate mod that is the previous version of this? You do not need to update it. I just want it working in 0.21.

@kOiGuh - I answered your question in the Bug reports discussion.

One day, you will have to play the latest version of the game.

Does this no longer work for 0.22.1? It was working just an hour ago. Is it crashing for everyone?

@聖君 宋王 - Because this mod does not have a built inside "Dropsuit Launcher" module. You will have to use another mod that has a similar thing, like Jani's Shipyard's "Decoupler" or some of those "Safe Explosive Charge" mods I saw before. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Sorry , I am new towards these Drop suits, I can build them ,but how to launch for attack , they seem to stick to my ship instead of moving to enemy ships.

what you want there, is a whole GUNDAM!!! @Mysticpompano 54

War mechs.....

5x5 Really Expensive Suits That Have Some High HP And High Damage But Slow And Can Lock Onto Only One Target

4x4 dropsuits!!!!!

for sanity reasons that is a joke.

@kOiGuh OK.

Just so you know I'm planning on making 3x3 dropsuits.

Please Nerf the heavy drop suits. Make at least 10,000 as they're REALLY powerful. Or Nerf their hp to 5,000. Thank you man this is one of the best mods here.

thaaanks, now i can send out little swarms of miners

Removed the mining suit until next update. Sorry y'all who crashed!

Oh hell, yeah, uh, the mining suit is why this crashes below beta versions.
Wanna know why?

Because the difference between the current version and the unreleased beta,
is that the damage definition for the mining laser is changed from..
Salvage
to..
salvage

It's not working on 0.22.1 is it working on 0.22.3?

Pinned error log discussion

@Wandering Stars - I'll add a place for it.