あんじゅ
For the decency of good afternoon. How do I figure out where you're stuck without SCREENSHOTS? Or location names.

One of your riddles does defy common sense yeah:

You have to kill a bunch of bots that already stopped being a threat in order for a gate to open. Common sense would be to save your resources for when you really need them, instead of spending them to kill these harmless bots.

Apart from this one thing I love your map so far, but unfortunately this one thing is at the very start of the game and completely prevents you from progressing if you don't figure it out.

wossname101
My riddle defies common sense?

Finally found that secret room in [BLOCK C] and by extension found the red keycard that lets me progress to the rest of the game.
I have to say, the solution was rather counterintuitive.

OK thanks.
I guess that means there is a secret room somewhere in [BLOCK C] that contains the red keycard I need to access [BLOCK A], and that I can probably progress once I have found that.
I'll keep looking then.

wossname101
1 red key in location C_Secret_Room. 2 in location D_Red_Key_2. 3 in location A_Red_Key_3. purple keys in locations D_Tower and D_Key_Purple. Orange card in D_Boxes_Warehouse.
Crowbar in location B_Crowbar. Screwdriver in A_Gas_Room_2.

OK I understand the idea of "Top Secret", but I've been stuck right at the start in [BLOCK C] for 3 hours now.
I can get the blue and green keycards no problem, but I can't find any purple, orange or red keycards, nor can I find a crowbar or a screwdriver (I can find one purple keycard exclusively in Hardcore, but that doesn't seem to help me very much).

I know games are more fun if you discover the solution by yourself, but at this point I'm confident I won't be able to solve this on my own. So for me my options are to either ask for help, or to give up entirely.

Without spoiling, the button is intended to be that way, you are not soft-locked. You will kill the slashy that you lock up with the button way later into progression. Keep looking in other rooms. The map is aimed at experts, you need to know Haydee mechanics inside-out. I only played this map after finishing all achievements in the main game, and it still took me 2-digit hours to complete. Very worth it, though. Good luck! :)

I already spent more than 2 hours at the very beginning, found a green keycard and a blue keycard, searched everywhere, but donno how to use them and how to proceed. No weapon found except 2 pieces of mine.
I only suppose I had the same issue that I got myself softlocked by that blue button at the end of the 2nd hall which by my guess is supposed to unlock the door to let out the slasher to step the mine and clear the way.
Any help and hint is greatly appreciated. I almost give up this well-made map.

is it possible to softlock yourself? im having an issue in which I cant progress, because the blue button at the end of the 2nd hall, with the slasher to the left towards the start is perma closed after pressing the button.

More maps are always appreciated, thanks for the mod, i will try it OwO

OK, I get it.

伊莉丹
No. In this location, we take Key Purple and leave the room.

pink key, then red key,go in the room and get locked in. Is that a way to end it?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2467484540070667937/274F16E8AD31A68F6EB2AD07E51FD235F7C7956E/

伊莉丹
Where exactly did you get your insurance? Can you show a screenshot of the room and if it's not too much trouble, please explain the problem in detail?

OK I find it, and get a red key,use it just let me be locked in a room with a black pillar, is it a end?

伊莉丹
Good afternoon. On the Hardcore difficulty level.

I finished a kind of ending for this map, does this map have a pink key, the other path needs it but I don't know where it is

Yes, though it's unusual to not be able to look up stuff. World is moving fast and stuff. :)

I though believe, I found a bug. I tried to describe it as generic as possible, while still telling you, what I mean in the description:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3178274074

(xs2007)
I'm glad you were able to get through Water_Prison on all difficulty levels. My 2 maps don't discuss passing. Only bugs. You can ask for tips. But no sectetting. I did that on purpose. Isn't it interesting to find everything yourself? My maps aren't very complicated. There's human inattention.

Finished Hardcore as well, nice addition with the alternative rooms, as you wrote in the description. I recommend playing Softcore first, though, Hardcore is doable, if you know the map, but still a challenge.

On another note: I now read about your game discussion policy in this thread, I haven't read it before, and wondered, why my other comment a few days earlier diappeared, sorry, now I know. :)

Alright, finished the map on softcore. What a journey! All in all, I took about 25 hours for the first finished playthrough with several startovers from scratch. As I already said, extremely well done map and definitely an expert one! The map is even longer than the original game and uses all mechanics of the original game and even some more on top. I might give hardcore a chance now, but idk what to expect, honestly, haha.

Thank you for sharing your work with the community, Punchline. @everyone reading: hit that thumbs up to get this to 5 stars, it deserves them.

As for progress: The last room I discovered is this:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/xs2007/screenshot/2457348104276438022/
I got the night vision from red before and I cannot find any path where to proceed. I have not found any other key items (except the night vision) yet. I have one white keycard left, some mines, some smg ammo (no smg though).

On a side note: I also wondered about this room:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/xs2007/screenshot/2457348104276437840/
I cleared it, but it seems there is nothing there (except for the picture on the wall on the left)?

Thanks for getting back!
Like for example here at the beginning of blue:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/xs2007/screenshot/2457348104276437665/
and here within red:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/xs2007/screenshot/2457348104276437393/
I understand, that not being able to grab there is part of the puzzle, but it still is counter-intuitive.

On the other hand, this being grappable is unexpected due to the railing :
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/xs2007/screenshot/2457348104276438209/

I also found a very minor/not game altering compounding issue in blue (railing is pass-through):
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/xs2007/screenshot/2457348104276435604/

xs2007
Thank you. Where exactly can't you get a grip? What item can't you find?

Very nice map (from what I've seen)! Not every edge is grabbable, which makes it seem unfair at times, but that's my only complaint, otherwise it's very well done. Definitely an advanced level map, you really need to know Haydee game mechanics.

However, I'm stuck with the progress, though. I got the night vision and found the breaker room in green. I tried all 4 positions and searched all of red/green/blue areas, that is accessible to me, but I can't find anything. Any hints? I think I either need to find the remote or the screwdriver to proceed...

(Betruger) Старые Tomb Raider 90х проходятся на одном дыхание у вас или же методом проб и ошибок?

Не могу сказать что легко, от карты в итоге устаёшь ((
Мало сейф зон и точек сохранения. Приходится часто перепроходить карту с самого начала, чтобы запомнить паттерн прохождения: куда бежать, как действовать или реагировать на ситуацию. Нужного много думать.
Любая ошибка или не верное решение и Хейди погибает будучи запертой в углу или узком коридоре.
Чтобы достать пистолет - вам придётся ооочень постараться, потратить далеко не одну попытку на это..

Я вообще казуал и для меня это анриал. Всё ещё не нашёл применение синей и зелёной карточке. Может дверь для них должна быть за быстрым роботом который перед дверью в самом начале, но там если кнопку нажал то дверь больше не открывается

Может пока не нашли подходящей тактики? Я умудрился проходить её без урона на Hardcore.

Не, ту ловушку реально надо переделывать, они так и залетают.

Сорян, но пока душновато. Понапихали противников, а оружие не дали. Медленных хоть доджить можно, но с быстрыми лично у меня не очень получается. Понравился момент с ловушкой для роботов, но там минус в том, что они могут к тебе залететь, и быстрые и медленные. Мало того, что ты им сделать ничего не можешь, так они тебе проход закрывают и приходится загружать сохранение. Ну и картинки от нейросети - это бе.

(Маскотрах) Тут я бессилен. У меня такой проблемы нет.

бро а есть мод на рус язик а то в игре он не работает

(Proto) Look for her in block C.

Во, у меня такой же вопрос как у иностранца. Я бы вообще это всё обсудил в лс но без понятия как написать

Unless I'm missing something I am unable to progress as I need the red keycard, purple and orange, I have green and blue but there's no place to use them

1-ое доброго времени суток.
2-ое можно было в этой теме, пожалуйста, без мата.
3-е в каком блоке застряли? Какие у вас есть карты?

ну крч побегал побегал и застрял нахуй. Что делать и куда идти вообще без понятия. Карточки есть но их некуда применить

А я думал уже ничего по игре не создают. Подпишусь и может в будущем дойдут руки пройти)

Доброго времени суток моим подписчикам. Как проходится карта? Надеюсь она не сильно сложная оказалась?

Good afternoon to my subscribers. How was the map? I hope it wasn't too difficult?