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Knavish Unmerciful Keeper Kills Obdurate Loyal Oath
69 Comments
seeki  [author] 3 Jul @ 9:38am 
Ver1.6 is now supported. However, I have not performed a complete operation check. If you experience any problems with Ver1.6, please provide the Player.log file.
seeki  [author] 22 Jun @ 8:48am 
Vanilla Expanded Frameworkと競合を起こすことが判明したため対策しました。
GoukaSoshina 21 Jun @ 2:26pm 
ご対応ありがとうございます!
seeki  [author] 21 Jun @ 5:01am 
Autocleaner modと競合を起こすことが判明したため対策しました。
GoukaSoshina 20 Jun @ 12:56am 
ファイル送信のため、フレンド申請をさせていただきました。どうぞよろしくお願いいたします。
seeki  [author] 19 Jun @ 7:44pm 
@GoukaSoshina
週末に調査するので 問題が発生しているセーブデータ と Player.log を頂けますか?

Player.logはここ
C:\Users\ OSアカウント名 \AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld by Ludeon Studios

セーブデータはここ
C:\Users\ OSアカウント名 \AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld by Ludeon Studios\Saves
GoukaSoshina 19 Jun @ 7:17pm 

今回特に困っているのはこちらです。画像と、勧誘前後のログを添付します。
・徴兵ボタンが表示されない:データのセーブ&ロードで解消
・欲求欄が食事、睡眠、娯楽、心情の4種しか表示されない:解決できず
・扉を開閉できない:解決できず

セーブ&ロード、および徴兵、他のポーンによるダウンおよび殺害蘇生では解決できず。解放されている扉は通ることができ、通れる範囲ではベッドや娯楽施設利用、その他仕事等通常のコロニストとして振る舞います。

もし気が向かれましたら、精査いただければ幸いです。
GoukaSoshina 19 Jun @ 7:17pm 
こちらを利用して揺るぎない精神を持つ者を勧誘したところ、下記2点の問題が発生しました
1.教育担当者が対象の前でスタックする
2.勧誘後、コロニストとして正常に動作しない


一人を教育する間に3度ほど発生しました。攻撃せず、精神崩壊、徴兵等の行動キャンセルまで対象を追い続けました。
seeki  [author] 31 May @ 9:21pm 
Q: An accident occurred due to a failure in education.
A: There is a risk in hiring amateurs with low skills or people with distorted personalities as instructors. It's safe if you have skill level 10.

It is clear that education needs to be stopped so as not to go too far.
Colonist who lack the required skills or have distorted personalities often have accidents.
Deltaknightx 31 May @ 7:56pm 
so that means if I assign someone with a lvl 10 or higher they wont die right?
Deltaknightx 31 May @ 3:53pm 
K so I tried out this mod and the result so far is that.. well my colonies starts beating them up for some reason when trying to educate them. Because of that, all of my prisoners die even though they were like full health. Is that what is supposed to to do?
seeki  [author] 26 Feb @ 8:57pm 
1. The Unwavering Loyalty displayed in the health tab by this mod is a meter to visualize progress. Therefore, even if a race heals the meter on its own, the effect is that the progress is hidden.

2. If you are not a special race, the strength of the race does not matter.
Q: An accident occurred due to a failure in education.
A: There is a risk in hiring amateurs with low skills or people with weak personalities as instructors. It's safe if you have skill level 10.
Mattatatta 26 Feb @ 8:43pm 
Thanks for the update. There are no errors to report now.

There are a couple of I've come across that might be worth noting:

1. This mod seems to be incompatible with Gloomy Dragonian Race. The 'Unwavering Loyalty' condition on the health tab doesn't appear for them. If I had to guess, it's due to them having a 'Regeneration' ability that quickly cures health issues. So it might be 'curing' the status this mod afflicts upon the prisoner, thereby making them unbreakable even with via this mod.

2. Xenotypes or races that have abnormally high base melee damage are extremely likely to down, cripple, or even kill wardens that try to break their spirit. I don't consider this a flaw of this mod, because this risk can help discourage players from trying to 'convince' every unwaveringly loyal prisoner to join their colony instead. It is, however, something that should be stressed as high risk.
seeki  [author] 22 Feb @ 11:32pm 
@Mattatatta
I was unable to reproduce your problem on my PC.
I have made some improvements to this mod to improve error checking, so please retest if that has resolved the issue.
The latest version of this mod is Ver1.1.3.0. Here's how to force update it:

1. Unsubscribe from this mod
2. Wait a while and then resubscribe to this mod

Please let me know if your problem has been resolved.
Mattatatta 22 Feb @ 12:01pm 
Had the game throw this error twice, with the second instance causing a quest to fail to generate properly:

"Exception while generating pawn group: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object"

Log below:
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/169b2c5d028aadfbfaf9e33209b76954
Kitasan Black 24 Jan @ 6:03am 
I am concerned that the mods I've chosen is mainly about mindbreak and domination..... welp new year new me
seeki  [author] 20 Nov, 2024 @ 4:52am 
Added a function to correct errors when flags are not initialized correctly.
seeki  [author] 19 Nov, 2024 @ 9:40pm 
Please provide a save data file from when the strange vampire exists. Also tell me the name of the strange vampire.
VovOzaum 19 Nov, 2024 @ 9:28pm 
I used education on a vampire and when he break and i recruited him, he was weird, could not deathrest and the A.I. was messy, when i uninstalled the mod the pawn vanished. loaded the save again with the mod, arrested him, uninstalled the mod again and removed unwavering loyal at the menu, recruited him and he worked normally. must be the mod.
seeki  [author] 17 Nov, 2024 @ 11:48pm 
The percentage drop in Unwavering Loyalty is linked not only to Edcation but also to mood-decreasing thoughts, and the drop is greater when multiple types of thoughts are stacked than when multiple identical thoughts are stacked.
This means that...
zyzyhasl 17 Nov, 2024 @ 11:10pm 
This mod integrates with a large number of mods and allows you to rehabilitate your unwavering loyalty in various ways.

But I cannot find any useful mod,can you list some Recommended Mod?
I tried Beat Your Prisoners,just donnot work
horseyzero 9 Nov, 2024 @ 2:05pm 
Is that a modpack? If so I'd appreciate a link to that.
seeki  [author] 8 Nov, 2024 @ 8:57pm 
This mod belongs to the black group.
Guess what it links to.
The "education" this mod provides is just one of the means.
horseyzero 8 Nov, 2024 @ 6:52pm 
The description mentions there being 'various ways' to break unwavering loyalty by integrating with other mods. What other mods would those be, and are there non-violent options?
Deconvolution 27 Oct, 2024 @ 6:05am 
donno why but after I recruit the already broken pawn it's name become red and cant be controlled properly
seeki  [author] 17 Sep, 2024 @ 6:35pm 
I had no trouble installing the Simple sidearms mod on my Rimworld.
Where are your HugsLib logs? What version of Rimworld are you on?
Dahaka 17 Sep, 2024 @ 5:19pm 
I think there is incompability with simple sidearms mod. My pawn gets ''stuck'' educating the prisoner, only drafting and undrafting gets it moving again. Removing simple sidearms help. Should I ask for help here or on Simple sidearms page?
tomono2 6 Aug, 2024 @ 7:20am 
ありがたい!ロールプレイが捗るw
seeki  [author] 4 Aug, 2024 @ 3:39am 
If you choose the wrong person to be in charge of education, the risk of an accident increases. Not everyone is the same.
れPURE い.億KiotheCloud四 4 Aug, 2024 @ 2:47am 
9/10 best warden happen to also be best melee pawn and one shot the unwavering loyal XD
Pub Terrorist 9 Jun, 2024 @ 1:23am 
When you put this game mid-save some unwavering prisoners don't have unwavering loyalty hediff. I think.
kev675243 27 May, 2024 @ 12:25pm 
@Macropod hard to argue getting cannon fodder this way. Plus for some reason the "education" option just beats my prisoners (sometimes to death)
Macropod 20 May, 2024 @ 4:14am 
I understand that I am speaking to the wrong address, but I am offended that there is no mod that would simply cancel the ability to recruit prisoners, especially raiders. I would never trust people who recently wanted to rob, kill and eat me. The game already has many ways to replenish your team without resorting to the services of these dubious individuals.
If necessary, a captive can always be enslaved, and later, when his loyalty is tested, he can be converted into a colonist using the "Simple Slavery Collars" mod, or a ritual from the "Vanilla Ideology Expanded" mod.
Winter 4 May, 2024 @ 6:40pm 
@seeki
Might be outside of your wish but have you considered making some of them truly 'un-breakable'. We've seen plenty of films where there's that one who despite any sort of treatment, they laugh manically through blood soaked teeth.
d_valroth 12 Apr, 2024 @ 11:32am 
The beating will continue until morale improves.

It's literally breaking someone's will. They refuse to join, so you hurt them until they can't take it anymore. We're the baddies.
Marsh 10 Apr, 2024 @ 10:49pm 
I... how does beating the shit out of a prisoner make them less loyal? Like... am I doing something wrong? I tell them to educate them, and the prisoner just gets the shit beaten out of them. Wha
Stryker 8 Apr, 2024 @ 5:10pm 
Worked thanks. Did mention something about negative traits but I dont think they have picked any up though cant be 100% sure
seeki  [author] 8 Apr, 2024 @ 8:35am 
I just posted an update. Ver1.1.1.0 is the latest version.
Stryker 8 Apr, 2024 @ 8:30am 
Cheers
Makes sense given the prisoner is often unconcious due to high pain. So I just need to update the mod now? :)
seeki  [author] 8 Apr, 2024 @ 8:20am 
@Stryker
The cause of the trouble was not a bug.
I set this mod as a condition for the prisoner to be "not down" to complete the removal of unwavering loyalty.
In this save data, this prisoner was always down due to injury, so I was never able to complete it.
Therefore, I relaxed the condition to "not unconscious" and changed it so that the removal of the prisoner's unwavering loyalty would be completed even in this save data.
Thank you for your cooperation in brushing up the mod.
Stryker 8 Apr, 2024 @ 7:07am 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CpSgZOJV1FKOevoxwyn_MJu3cUzwPnUB/view?usp=sharing
Uploaded it to drive as it was too big as a text file
seeki  [author] 8 Apr, 2024 @ 6:57am 
@Stryker
There were no errors in my mod recorded in that log, and I couldn't figure out the cause.
Please upload the save data you are having trouble with.
I can't fix it unless I reproduce the problem myself.
https://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Save_file
Stryker 8 Apr, 2024 @ 6:44am 
I cant publish it (error 401 and doesnt seem to be any fixes online) I have uploaded it to a pastebin (https://pastebin.com/PugLMMwV)
I run about 30 mods and havent had any issues thrown at me

Ive changed the pawn off education in the last 2 days to give him a chance to heal. he was on educate for about a year and a half at this point and on 0% for the last 2 quadrums at least at a guess.
seeki  [author] 8 Apr, 2024 @ 6:09am 
@Stryker
Since you hide HugsLib's error logs and save data and only talk about fragments of what happened, I have no way of knowing what is causing such irregularities.
If inaccurate speculation is acceptable, the reason why the notification remains 0% forever is that the prisoner is a Pawn with corrupted data, and this mod cannot complete the process properly.
If you have less than 100 mods installed in your Rimworld and you upload your save data, I will investigate the cause in good faith just for you.
However, if you have a junk Rimworld with hundreds of mods and full of red errors, I won't support it.
I am creating a mod that works as normally as possible even in junk Rimworld, but it is impossible to guarantee perfect operation.
Stryker 8 Apr, 2024 @ 5:58am 
They have been at 0% for a long time now (quadrums) and repeatedly keep getting further beaten up. Havent received any notification. The exact words are "Crack of unwavering loyal(0%) (about to break) and has been like that for ages now. Can still prioritise educating where they beat them but doesnt make any difference
seeki  [author] 8 Apr, 2024 @ 2:28am 
@Stryker
If a prisoner's unwavering loyalty is reduced to 0% through the normal procedure, the unwavering loyalty will disappear within one hour of in-game time and you will receive a notification letter.
If unwavering loyalty is set to 0% by illegal means, the next time the percentage changes, it will be corrected to the correct value and will no longer be 0%.
Stryker 7 Apr, 2024 @ 7:11pm 
My prisoners unwavering loyalty is down to 0% but has been stuck there for ages now. What do I do next? Still says unwaveringly loyal and i cant convert them or anything
seeki  [author] 5 Mar, 2024 @ 9:03am 
@今夜月美愿君亡
After receiving reports of similar bugs from other people, I fixed a bug where the mod was processing thoughts received while eating, which caused an error that would disturb eating.
I think your problem will probably be resolved as well.
I apologize for not discovering the bug in the mod during your report.
今夜月美愿君亡 25 Feb, 2024 @ 12:58am 
I'm sure it's the Unwavering Loyalty from the health status that's affecting,If I remove it it becomes correct