For anyone wondering, this mod is still up to date. Regardless of the descriptor stating "1.12.2.1", the mod is still working on 1.15. I also took a look at the code and everything is good, nothing outdated at all. It might change when Steppes comes along, but I doubt it.

I love this mod but with the new updates some changes have been made to the legends I believe, will this mod be updated ?

when they announced the dlc i thought legends would slowly spread around the world, and during a long game they would reach very far away, maybe like a disease you know. would it be possible to fix legends like that?

@heliostellar @steampnam ctd should be fixed

CTD because the update altered things and files this mod did, I'm thinking.

@heliostellar

I get a CTD when I have this mod active. This only started with the 3/27/2024 update.

Hello,
Do you know if this compatible with agot?

Is this working as intended? While the legends icons do not expire, there is no bonus associated ( barony or personal).

@Lefrrf

Thank you for those corrections! I'm always interested in learning like that.

I actually thought that the first Japanese Emperor's father banged the sun, and I made a mistake in how I wrote it.

As for the Minoans, I know they actually existed, but I was referring to the eons in which it was thought (like Troy) to be made up, until (IIRC) its discovery in the nineteenth century.

"Heroes Get Remembered, but Legends Never Die"

Learn a bit of markdown and sort your descriptions out...

@lefrrf The minoans, as you said, where a real culture, most likely connected to the myth of the minotaur. The palaces they build were very complex and have a labyrinth like layout. The historical connection to the legend is there

Is it save game compatible?

The Minoans were a real culture on Bronze Age Crete. You might be confusing them with the legend of Theseus and the Minotaur. We have most certainly never found any evidence of King Minos, the Minotaur or a Labyrinth. But on a related note, it does appear King Midas, who was in myth said to have been blessed/cursed by Dionysius to turn everything he touched into gold, may have actually been a real Phrygian king. Mita, King of the Mushki (an Anatolian people thought to be the Phrygians) is mentioned in Assyrian records from the reign of Sargon II as having attacked the eastern Anatolian territories of Assyria.
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That would have been weird. In fact, none of his ancestors had sex with Ameterasu, since Ame no Oshishomimi was born of a incident in which Susanoo no Mikoto (Ameterasu's younger brother and kami of storms, as well as protective figure and somehow associated with agricuture. He also killed an eight headded eight tailled snake and found Kusanagi - the sacred imperial sword - inside it) chewed Ameterasu's beaded necklace which somehow spawned five male kami, which Ameterasu declared to be her sons. Seriously, look up Japanese mythology, it's fascinating.
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@TurtleShroom
I broadly agree with you. Just a few factual corrections.

The first Japanese Emperor was the Jimmu Emperor, who was said to be the great-great-great grandson of Ameterasu Oumikami, the kami of the Sun, via her son Ame no Oshishomimi no Mikoto, his son Ninigi no Mikoto - the one that came to Earth and thus the last one in this list who was never human - his son Hikohohodemi no Mikoto, and finally his son Hikonagisa Takeugaya Fukiazu no Mikoto - the Jimmu Emperor's father. The Jimmu Emperor never banged the Sun.
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This is off-topic, but what about the Minoans is mythical @TurtleShroom ?

Legend FireSpark

HERO

Such a good mod idea! I think it is ridiculous that a tier 3 story dies out that should be a story that would live to the modern day.

@ReMeDy

Extracted from paradox forums:
'25-35 years for tier 1, 50-70 years for tier 2, and 75-100 years for tier 3'.

They've improved the numbers, however for tier 2 and 3 it still felt a bit short. Tier 3 last forever since it should be comparable to legends of Caesar, Alexander the Great, etc.

@ Ulthar
This got fixed, or at least improved in the recent update. It's up to you to decide if you still prefer this mod's changes over Paradox's.

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@Pepega

It completely ruins immersion: we still talk about legends, myths, and stories such as Homer's Odyssey, Troy, Minoans, the Japanese Emperor's ancestor going to town with the sun, the Egyptian pharaohs being literal gods, King Arthur, George Washington's cherry tree, and even knights slaying dragons to this day. Even the ones we have confirmed as fake (e.g. Washington) are as fun as the ones we confirmed as real (Troy and Minoans).

@Pepega

I hate the Dynasty Legacies, but at least everyone in the game is guaranteed to get them if they survive long enough.

LEGENDS ARE DIFFERENT. THEY ARE LEGENDARY .
I was promised LEGENDS NEVER DIE . I was not promised "legends catch on and become a meme for a few generations but they die off". If we still know the name of the first Japanese Emperor because he supposedly banged the sun, we should know my ruler's feats.

It is historically inaccurate and totally ruins immersion for people to forget something as cool as "oh, it says here I'm descended from pharaohs despite having never left Scotland".

"My father, king (insert name), is a direct descendant of king Arthur Pendragon himself!"

"Who?"

"Arthur Pendragon, the great-"

"Was he a fierce poet or something? Who's your father anyway?"

"..."

Paradox, I hereby encourage you to make more permanent modifier buffs!

so you are saying, your legend sticks around for 25 years and then everyone forgets?

TurtleShroom Theres already too much permanent modifier buffs in the game like the disgusting dynasty legacies system. Stop trying to encourage paradox to make more.

First thing I changed as well in the defines.txt :D

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar that makes this DLC sort of worth having.

> TWO HUNDRED YEARS

That's gay. It should be freaking permanent.

is this still needed because of the new update?

apparently it was a bug that cause legends to die 20 years after their creation it was meant to be for 200 years

The Comment Below Me is Preaching Facts

this guy just saved the new whack ass dlc paradox ceo should massage ur balls

Please

please sleep with my spouse

Please make name of mod with uppercase D: "legends never Die", for fun

Please, make name of mod with uppercase L: "Legends never die", to annoy everyone who is semi-mentally incapable

Please, make name of mod with uppercase L: "Legends never die", to annoy Brillenfisch

Please, leave name of mod with lowercase l: "legends never die", to annoy vhodnoylogin

Please, make name of mod with uppercase L: "Legends never die"

it felt like everyone had an obligatory memory deleting serum injected every 20 years.

it's absolutely hilarious that a legend can fade away when the actual person that's in it is still alive and well

Like sure have them die out to competing tales from foreign lands from time to time, but at least let us keep the ability to read them again after they die out. Thanks for the mod!

I heard legend seeds vanish if you don't use them with the one who earned them. Could you make a mod that keeps them if that's true?

this is what i wanted

So would this make the legends still have their buffs? If so i feel like they should still die after 75 years as it seems fair for what you can get

You got great mod ideas

@firespark84 Thanks! This is a really great idea.