Sure. You can post a link here or DM me.

Hey Wicorel, are you also interested in building blueprints? I've overhauled a fair few of them so far. :-)

Check the logs. It should have information about the crash.. Unless it is something within SE itself.

Just starting this new updated version. Ran into a issue, but its one that might not effect very many people that play this version of the scenario. I added the AiEnabled mod to add a humanoid enemy and also helpers. With the mod added the world loads but after about 5 seconds it crashes to desktop no error message. Im not sure what's going on. Nothing else I added does this.

Thank you for continuing the work on this.

all of the bases and HQ should have defense blocks.

Did you not find them? Where they not working?

I think it was because I moved away from the area.

Also, I have finished the scenario. It was still easy. I did increase the heat and difficulty after my second session. Perhaps you need to add the AI Defence blocks to all the buildings ?

Do you have a save file for me?

When I went to the Secret Weapons Research Facility , a drone was dispatched but it fell to the ground shortly after.

So far so good. I like the changes. I too thought those air bases were poorly defended. I still got in though :) . Next stop, the illegal weapon lab.

As you've noticed, I'm not paying a ton of attention here.

Unfortunately, I've gotten very little feedback. I DO appreciate your feedback.

The progression stuff has gotten really wonky after all the changes that Keen has made and it needs lots of research to find out what's going on in these cases.

I left a comment here on the 5th of December regarding issues with inconsistent blocks oj progression blocks and basic blocks. Any chance you can help with this?

This is a world; not a mod.

Is this the only part needed for the mod? I don't see any pre-requisites or dependencies, but when I put this on my dedicated server on a fresh install, and connect I am told the mod was not able to load due to errors. I can provide more detailed info if necessary.

Hi there, I spoke to you a few weeks ago about blocks missing from the EFM game such as the battery from normal progression.

You suggested I move to this version of the mod; I have since tried the game locally and hosted on a server remote and with a friend hosting on their machine and I am still getting the same issues.

Sometimes when I remake the game as a fresh install for the first time, we both have access to all starting blocks but after reconnecting or restarting the server one or both of us will have missing blocks.

I’ve tried both version of these mods under every condition suggested, please look into this bug

if you want help testing please message me - we can do a screen share to trouble shoot the issue. as the mod is now its unplayable for me and my friend

The main big one with showing off the atmospheric thrusters, if you are standing at the door it's on the left, near the windows

Which building at flight research?

Wicorel, I love the update you have done. The new block look great in this. But as I was doing a spectator look around the world, The Flight Research is damaged, can you have a look of why it seems to have damage?

Yes. please. Let me know if you find any problems.

Should I use this version of the scenario for my first playthrough?

Well, this version is NOT (yet) extended. It's just a re-do of the original with major changes (listed above) to more match the current abilities of vanilla SE.

For example, when the scenario was created there was just batteries, reactors and solar panels. Wind and Hydrogen engines where not in the game.

Also, there are many more vanilla blocks and DLC blocks that have been used in places in the world.

This world should automatically use the correct version of the mod.

@Wicorel do you need progression enabled to play Escape from Mars or can i turn it off? also if so how do you get reactor technologies unlocked?

hey @Wicorel, which mod version should we be using at the moment? I guess I am a little confused if they both work as intended or if one is broken… thanks!

I really love this but sofar only been playing the previous version. Before I try the Extended version i wanted to ask if there is gonna be a update now with the latest released DLC ?

OK, just realized that log was old; loaded up a new playthrough, and it made a new log; I now have efm.logs in two folders in the AppData\Roaming\SpaceEngineers\Storage\ location - one under 1874524778.sbm_EscapeFromMars (the one created today with the new playthrough) and the one the previous message was in under 1301917772.sbm_EscapeFromMars.

The new one shows version 47, and seems to be running better. Not sure how I managed that...

V42? Are you using this world?

It should be using the EFM friends test version of the MOD which is currently V47.

Odd... it was doing the same even from the very beginning of the game, before any Convoys were sent.

I've completed the scenario (just made it to the satellite yesterday); oddly enough, it threw an error when I did, and when I checked the EFM log, all it had in it was:

[12:39:04] Initialising Escape From Mars build 42
[12:39:04] Game Language=English
[12:39:04] SE Version=1.204.18
[12:39:04] Economy items enabled
[12:39:04] Warefare1 items enabled
[12:39:04] Warefare2 items enabled
[12:39:04] Current Mission Length: 00:00:00
[12:39:04] Original world was loaded by Version:42
[12:39:04] Loaded world was saved by Version:0

Going to check later if it does it when running without the Plugin Launcher and any Plugins enabled

Thread CPU usage is high in both, really.

How far along are you in the game? How long have you been playing?

How many convoys are active?

/efm convoy

will tell you the answer

Dunno if it helps at all, but this is what I see when it happens:

https://imgur.com/a/HjLvVBh

vs what it looks like when running smoothly:
https://imgur.com/a/SPlSjYa

Single player, running a fairly strong rig (Ryzen 7 5800x, 32gb ram, RTX 3070)

It seems to be less severe and frequent after a full reinstall, but its still somewhat noticeable. It almost feels like, and this is probably a bad comparison to make, how Fallout 4 feels when Papyrus starts to chug.

@steam: Why did it take this long to pop up in my notifications?

Do you have a beefy platform or closer to recommended?

Was this multiplayer?

Hey Wicorel! Just wanted to ask if anyone else has seen this... but every so often around 30-45 seconds) I'm experiencing a momentary drop in sim speed from a solid 1.00 to around .6/.7 - it's just a half second or so bog down, but it's consistent. I've gone so far as fully reinstalling SE just to make certain I'm not being daft with it, no kludged files, etc.

Wouldn't be a big deal if it wasn't so blasted frequent heh... anything I can provide that might be useful, or any idea what it might be? Something triggering to check for spawns or the like?

Oh that reminds me, what turns off the AI for a grid?

I tried shooting out the antenna so they couldn't call reinforcements, but they kept doing so.
I tried taking out the AI blocks and remote control if I could find it, that didn't seem to help either.
I went for the batteries and disabled the entire powergrid of the station, and that finally worked.

I think there should be a few different triggering type events. Take out the antenna, reinforcements can't be called in regularly (with antenna, new ones come as soon as old one is disabled).

With no antenna, reinforcements come to check out the area saying the base has lost contact or something. If they leave after finding nothing, the antenna is repaired/replaced or a comms ship spawns in and lands on the station to act as its new antenna. Convoys that reach 500 meters of the station can also serve as a temporary antenna.

If the base has antennas and its guns are taken out, an attack force comes in, multiple heavily armed ships.

I take it you're replacing reactors with batteries? If need be, you could probably create an uncraftable battery that has 50x the storage capacity in it starting them all out at max, unless you plan to just use scripting to make AI grids have unlimited power maxing out their batteries every x ticks or so. Just some thoughts to add in.

I did forget to share my stream playthrough though, might do a new one at some point and just record it instead so I can clip out the bits I think are important to show.

There are probably some I've missed, but the intent is that they are removed. I'll make another pass to find them.

I know the other spot is the bomb tunnel to secret research

To use on dedicated servers, check the option to pause when no players are connected.

I'm still able to salvage uranium and reactors is that intended as you state that there is no uranium and no reactors.
I found a small reactor in the pit next to the Flight research station behind the text panel I guess this was overlooked I'll keep looking for them and post any findings here

Thanks for your work on this, sounds good! Does this newer version work on dedicated servers?

I streamed today, but a lot of cursing in it due to one shot mechanics and stuff pissing me off. :P Its uploaded for 7 days on Twitch though should you wanna skip around and stuff. I'll get a link in a bit and point out time stamps.

I had a thought though. I think you should disable reinforcements if a base's antenna is taken out, after all, it can't actually call for help with no antenna.

You might also consider bases slowly repairing themselves once the player exits their detection range. Not sure how you'd go about doing that though. I also found a few things I could do to exploit the AI a little bit while in a base during the stream. Not sure how you'd solve that either.

Perhaps I should record or stream my game sometime, show you how I've played. I did add a few mods to do some things slightly differently but I did my best to keep to your original balance. Like I added build and repair nanobot thing to construct my ships for me and work as a way to deconstruct other bases only after I've totally disarmed and captured them.

Wicorel, for the sensor, you could put the sensor on the back of it, and invert its detection field. That might help make those harder to deal with. I also suggest increasing the range on a few of them like in the ice mine, increase the range of the one that leads to an office before you go down the ice slopes. I can literally just stand there and shoot it out without risk at all.

I am using Nukeguard's discord by the way so if you wanna chat there, just give me a ping!

As per safe zones, you can actually place in non-safe zone zones, spawning them in with the admin menu I believe. I'll look into it if you want, these are free and cost no energy and last forever.

As per the bomb, I didn't have any difficulty tunneling to the base really. After the tunneling wasn't all that successful because I still kept getting one shooted, I actually just flew up to the base super fast and got under the stairs, at that point it was extremely easy.

Oh, and yes, we were both on the CRASH faction. It is through that functionality that I attempted to press "Share Progression"

Perhaps duckroll's original (pre-vanilla progression) method needs to still be used if KSH's version can't be made to work in multiplayer? Otherwise, I'm not doing anything today, so I'm willing to help test things if you need. Sent friend request.

Hosted on my player PC. He can't see pretty much anything in his menu, and sharing progression from faction menu doesn't change anything. As a last resort, I attempted to edit the config files to enableResearch>false (found two instances across the two sbc files). Then tried a fresh save with no changes just to be sure. Still not seeing it, even after accepting share progression once more.

Yes, the mod forces progression on. It's needed to block blocks from being available to the player.

Is the other player in the CRASH faction? Was this hosted or dedicated server?

If you're above ground and within about 1800 meters, then drones should spawn to attack you. Did they not?

The current detection is players. In the past there wasn't AI blocks and any real threat would require player control (even remotely). But that's probably no longer the case.
I do have on my list to maybe add player grid detection, but I have not yet started implementing it.

The new SE version spawns a temporary container instead of just spewing contents all over. That will effect the small containers that are kinda embedded in voxels at the start, you're right. In the past you needed to weld up the cargo containers to get the contents out or they'd fall through the voxels if you just ground them down. I'll look at them.

The rotor turrets are mod script controlled. so that's what's blowing them up when the gun is damaged. I'll look at hiding the sensor behind something.

Safe zones require zone credits. and a descent amount of power. There is a 'bomb' ship that is spawned that is used if you're underground near a base (but not TOO near).

Update on previous comment: The mod seems to be forcing progression to stay on? But even if I select "Share Progression" in the Faction menu, he doesn't receive my progress

Trouble getting wheel suspensions for multiplayer? I have world progression turned off as I recall it interfering with the earlier versions. I can see and make wheel suspensions as host, but friend joined cannot.

Another idea, would be to detect all broadcasting antennas or beacons, if your range is in their range, then summon some AI to investigate the point of origin of the beacon. Update location as your beacon moves so ships follow the signal, and then use last known when beacon goes offline.

That would probably be the most complex of all the things but, would add to the danger. Kinda like the reavers mod, but they also use cameras to find you too so that'd be another interesting thing to do.