Having just both Life Lessons: Medical Mishaps and Smart Medicine enabled causes crashes on opening a colonist health tab for me. They seem to be incompatible mods.

please write in the description which mods this is compatible with or not. at least for CE , RBSE / EPOE , Reclaim, Reuse, Recycle (Continued) . it would be good to know in general how this mod works with different bionics and medical mods

Is it intended that 150% pain modifier on treated wounds is global? If you have 50 pain from 10 bruises and 2 pain from 1 crack, once you treat it, instead of getting 1 extra pain from crack, you get ~26 extra pain.

@Fellder what is the issue with compact hedriffs?

Where can i find the medical proficiencies?

Life Lessons is CE compatible, but what about this mod? CE affects the medical system, so I'm curious.

I see at least two other mods interacting with the same method in just that one strack trace. Post the full log and mod list.

Doctors get stuck (just standing and "waiting") while trying to treat a colonist's beam wound, I asked Deepseek for help and it told me there might be some problems with this mod. Here's my error logs. By the way, thanks for your work, I really enjoy Life Lessons. [rentry.co]

Conflict with Compact Hediffs

I've only just noticed that permanent wounds aren't getting stuck with the 150% pain anymore.. looked in the changelog and can see that you fixed that on the 9th only 3 days after I mentioned it. Thanks for doing that!

I've just spotted it. He doesn't know anaesthetisation.. so all tends will be at 150% pain...

Okay. That would be fine if it actually only applied to the the pain from the wound, but it seems to stack to insane amounts. If the pawn is in 40% pain without tending, the maximum they should go to at 150% pain on each wound is 60%, not maxing out over 100 after just ONE wound is tended.

This whole pain x150% thing is insane. Starting a scenario with the crash landing mod, tending a single wound causes them to be immediately downed by the intense pain, even if the doctor is using most effective treatment type and knows simple suturing and wound dressing. Additionally there's no way to get rid of it other than removing the hediff altogether with dev mode or character editor.

On top of this, none of the treatment options displayed even mention 150% pain being an outcome at all???? Please disable it as it clearly needs some work.

posting this here so it doesn't get lost: War Crimes Expanded 2 compat? so that we can finally gain proficiency from horrible medical experiments like as intended? xD

i'd be willing to contribute a patch for it myself if it's just regular XML patching

Don't know whether this is intentional or not (didn't see it listed anywhere but could see it being a feature) but if a medic can't research or use their intellect trait normally because of a trait or background then they don't seem to learn proficiency from performing Most Effective Treatments but they can still learn from teaching.

Hey Wumpi, are you aware of an issue in which poorly tended wounds (those tended without the required proficiency) that scar are causing *all* pain on the pawn to be increased by 150%, and that each one of these stacks? I had a pawn completely paralysed by pain from scars that, most of which weren't painful by themselves, but each were buffing the ~5% pain from two scars up to over 100%. Thanks

Found a compatibility issue. I wasn't able to properly figure out which mod was interfering with it, since i have 500+ active mods and it takes around 1h to start the game each time, but rearranging the mods solved the issue.

Basically, this happened on one of my dinosaurs, but i confirmed it to also happen for my colonists. I was using mod order 1. The pawn was bleeding, and it was working well. I saved, changed the order to order 2, then reloaded. Everything was working great. I then tried to open the health tab and it just froze, then after some time it caught a fatal exception and killed the app (surely due to this error).

Here are the error logs [0x0.st], here is the mods order 1 (working) [rentry.co], and here is the mods order 2 (not working) [rentry.co]

I suppose it's compatible with EPOE ? (I've played with the main module and got some red errors associated with EPOE and Combat Extended patches - cannot copy it right now but will do tomorrow if it will help.)

Could it be compatible with Medical Dissection and Reclaim, Reuse, Recycle (Continued) mods?

Cool mod, but my colonists keep getting x150% pain from the injuries, and it stacks for the whole pain on the body, and it stays forever if it scars, so my colonists are all dropping from like minor injuries cause the pain is getting multiplied x500%.

Fixed. The issue was that burns to the nose (and probably other surface parts) are counted as "bone" depth by rimworld.

For future reference, reports without a log file range from nearly useless to outright detrimental. It was only a fluke that I was able to replicate the issue by choosing to apply a burn to an uncommon location.

Found a bug. Pawn may get stuck (just standing and "waiting") while trying to treat some burns, suspected to be related to whether he knows the knowledge of treating burns.I guess it's because of a pawn who doesn't know how to handle burns will try to handle them and get stuck ？

@Samuel_Bucher
Yes, though it might be more efficient to train your doctors by beating your prisoners and letting them tend the wounds. Surgeries don't have very complex proficiency requirements.

Does this mean that you can train your doctors by performing surgeries on prisoners?

@林司令员命令往下传
There's actually already a combat module about 70% complete. I dropped it to focus on getting 2.0 + medical released quickly.
If you have ideas, feel free to pitch them on Discord, or to a lesser extent, here

Medical，yeah. nice work will you consider next is the combat（or weapon）？Combat experience for each colonist should be detailed.

Noted, thanks for the reply. Looks well done nevertheless.

It must be installed on top of the base mod. I'll add a dependency in steam soon.
I've pushed around the idea of pulling the core functionality out as a pure framework too, but right now it's a lot of work for little pay off

Does this work independently of the original Life Lessons module? I'm a little hesitant to gate my research that hard (especially when I'm still getting used to Research Reinvented, which I'm not even sure is compatible yet), but this system seems interesting for expanding the medical side of the game.

I love this, thankyou for the hardwork !!

Glad to see this beautiful mod expanding into a mod series