Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Legacy of Ashoka
60 Comments
Pigsy 22 Jun @ 1:08pm 
This mod needs to be passed onto someone with more coding experience, like Herkles of Dharmachakra.
outlander7 1 Jun @ 12:56am 
This mod seems really interesting! Hoping it'll get updated eventually
Thousands Of Morry 17 May @ 1:53am 
Cultural Buddhist here, trying to explain something... Unlike Christianity, Buddhism does not conceive of sin as an essential or ontological category, that means, Buddhist thought does not closely integrate ethics with its metaphysical or ontological frameworks. As a result, it lacks a consistent moral consensus on issues like sexuality, and instead tends to adapt its ethical positions to local cultural norm that referred to as "worldly law" (世間法, laukika-dharma).
bob_iron 14 May @ 2:12am 
Man, i wish this mod was updated :(
Atlas 23 Mar @ 5:42am 
this mod doesnt work anymore....
Ġedryht of Wōden 27 Feb @ 12:49am 
What evidence is there for Buddhists being more sexually permissive than everyone else? From my own judgement it doesn't seem like Buddhists would've approved of sexually promiscuous acts like sodomy.
After all, Buddhist philosophy was similar to ancient Greek and Christian philosophy. There's strong evidence, contrary to popular lies, that the Greeks and especially the Romans did not approve of homosexuality.
If liberals are willing to lie about their precious Greek history they'll lie about any. So watch out for these misconceptions.
ArguedGlobe 7 Jan @ 7:06am 
I've just started using this mod, it still works but you can't take any mod-related decisions like taking Bodhisattva vows etc.
Does this still work even without being updated?
Pigsy 17 Nov, 2024 @ 5:20pm 
also someone needs to make a compatibility with rice, rajas, and asia expansion.
Pigsy 17 Nov, 2024 @ 3:58pm 
can't wait for the update!
Kuro-B  [author] 28 Sep, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
Hey everyone! I'm currently working on updating the mod for the new update. While the best experience will be with Roads to Power (possibilities to add landless monks), I want to keep this mod accessible so no DLC required for now.

Expectations for the update will also be some religion map changes, especially since we get a new start date in vanilla. Thank you guys!
Stolen Soup 26 Sep, 2024 @ 10:26am 
any chance you'll update this for the new start date?
GameChanger 24 Aug, 2024 @ 11:23am 
As a Buddhist and a Hindu, thank you :)
It means a lot!
AdriftCarnivore 10 Aug, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
Is this compatible with the Asia Expansion Project?
benutiger1 10 Aug, 2024 @ 12:03pm 
as a 30 year practitioner of pranayama i love this!!!
Pigsy 6 Aug, 2024 @ 7:16pm 
As a buddhist this is great!
venseiiz 12 Jul, 2024 @ 7:43am 
It seems there's a conflict with RICE, as it adds its own religious doctrines, so for example Fojiao will have both Dharmaguptaka doctrine and, for some reason, Pali Canon doctrine, thus mixing up opinions. I have put the Legacy of Ashoka below in the loading list, but it still won't override these modifications.
EDIT: I have investigated a little, and it seems the reason behind this is RICE_magadha_effects file in RICE which force-adds RICE-specific doctrines on top of any existing Buddhist faiths.
Rough 1 Jul, 2024 @ 1:41pm 
practicing Buddhist here, this is awesome
超级无敌神之小帅德 21 Jun, 2024 @ 10:39pm 
Hello i am a Chinese player and Buddhist and i very love your mod, does this mod support Chinese language ?
bill09xatz 14 Jun, 2024 @ 8:08am 
@Kuro-B thank you very much for your info!!!!
I will use it right way!!!!
Kuro-B  [author] 12 Jun, 2024 @ 6:41pm 
@Extinrebok Yes! I am working on changes for an update. If you find any specific issues please let me know and I'll try to fix them.
Kuro-B  [author] 12 Jun, 2024 @ 6:40pm 
@SamOrthodoxy if the Unofficial Patch mod changes the core_tenets files, it may mean they added tenets and that conflicts with the Legacy of Ashoka file, which also adds tenets. The game will need to pick one mod's files to load all tenets from.

Very strange though, if you load Legacy of Ashoka later in the mod list, it should use Legacy of Ashoka's files. Have you tried without Unofficial Patch mod?
SamOrthodoxy 11 Jun, 2024 @ 6:26am 
I am also getting the bug mentioned by the previous commenter. My mod list and this mod was working and since the weekend suddenly I can only see the standard tenets and not the Buddhist unique tenets. The Buddhist faiths now appear like they only have two tenets each.

I have had a look and the mod I found that also modify the 00_core_tenets file is the Unofficial patch and I have this mod loaded after the unofficial patch so I am a stumped by it.
Extinrebok 6 Jun, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Do you look into the error.log file to make your beautiful mod even better?) I accidentally looked and saw several errors in the logs after the launch.
Kuro-B  [author] 5 Jun, 2024 @ 1:21pm 
@ιοոոεֆαոո Which mods are you running? Generally, you should try to load Legacy of Ashoka last in the mod queue. Any mods that change the religion tenets or Buddhism religion text files will cause conflicts. If one of your mods adds new main doctrines, that is probably the one conflicting.

As to reincarnation as a virtue, that's a good idea. Great way to represent the Tulku tradition. Will implement in an update.
ιοոոεֆαոո 4 Jun, 2024 @ 6:40pm 
Hello Is there a loading order requirement for this mod? I don't know why this mod makes Buddhism have 6 Main Doctrines in my game, it goes beyond the display screen, also I think the virtue of having reincarnated spiritual children should be added in Tibetan Buddhist sects such as Gelugpa
Kuro-B  [author] 3 Jun, 2024 @ 8:35pm 
@キナワ @Soulja @Vajrapani Thank you for the compliments! Much appreciated.
Kuro-B  [author] 3 Jun, 2024 @ 8:32pm 
@Pyrrhos09 If you're basing a character on Menander, he'd be best represented by Theravada. If you make a custom Greco-Buddhist faith, you could use Vijnanavada for the holy sites and choose "Pali" for the Vinaya Lineage doctrine.
Kuro-B  [author] 3 Jun, 2024 @ 8:27pm 
@Enthused Nudist Thanks! Glad to hear you're enjoying the mod. Also good to know there's no conflicts with RICE. After doing some playthroughs and checking the files, I believe it should be fully compatible.
キナワ 3 Jun, 2024 @ 2:31pm 
I'm also a buddhist myself, and i'm so happy for you making this mod, congratulations!
bill09xatz 3 Jun, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
Do you know which faith exactly did Menander and his heirs took in their Indo-Hellenic kingdom??
He is know as Milinda and he ruled in the area of Punjab which in Hellenic language is translated as "Pentapotamia".
I am tryin to create a scenario of reforming the Indo-Hellenic kingdom with the capital of Alexandria Eschate which is in Gandhara duchy.
Really nice mod!!!
Dwan 2 Jun, 2024 @ 6:16am 
i dont know much about buddhism but well done on taking it in your own hands to try to accurately represent your religion and culture
Enthused Nudist 31 May, 2024 @ 4:16pm 
Hey Kuro, great mod! It's nice to see Buddhism well represented in the Tarim Basin. I remember my mom used to take me to Fojiao temples a lot as a kid and it was really exciting. Also, there wasn't a whole lot of options for utilising holy sites in the Tarim Basin other than converting to Taoism, Manichaeism, Melie or Zoroastrianism, so it's a nice change. No issues with RICE so far btw. Hope to see more from you man!
ARIOCH 31 May, 2024 @ 10:16am 
Such a great mod! Thanks for this!
El Chapo 31 May, 2024 @ 9:40am 
nice
Kuro-B  [author] 30 May, 2024 @ 7:38pm 
@The Asthmatic Pit Pony Yes this mod changes Buddhism in the Taklamakan Desert region. There is a new Buddhist faith in that area with holy sites. It is not yet wiped out in the 1066 bookmark however.
Kuro-B  [author] 30 May, 2024 @ 7:36pm 
@SausageSnacks RICE is a great mod with a lot of good flavor additions! While they shouldn't necessarily conflict, I know they make some changes in Afghanistan and the Tarim Basin, so there will be compatibility issues unless you run Legacy of Ashoka after it on the mod list. That, and I believe they have their own Donate to the Sangha decision, so you'd have two different donation options.

Once I play around and test compatibility more, i'll update my mod description about it. There are a lot of good mods on the workshop that give Buddhism attention. What my mod hopes to accomplish is to fill in the gaps where accuracy, flavor, and playability is needed.
Mars' Silliest Martian 30 May, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
Excuse my ignorance because I haven't played with this mod yet. But, does this mod have anything about Buddhism around the Taklamakan Desert? I know it was wiped out by Islam somewhere in the 11th Century.
SausageSnacks 30 May, 2024 @ 6:04am 
There's another mod, RICE, that makes its own additions to alter how Buddhism works in CK3, I was wondering:
How compatible is RICE with this mod? And;
What do you think of the changes RICE does to Buddhism, and do you think it handles buddhism well?
Your uncle 30 May, 2024 @ 12:40am 
DO NOT REEDEEEEEM!!!
Kuro-B  [author] 29 May, 2024 @ 10:16pm 
@Riaman Thank you! This is very valuable feedback. Sources tell us pilgrims visiting Panjab reported 'degraded' Buddhism in the region and Vedic-style worship. Scholars oscillate between them describing Hinayana, Vajrayana, or Shaivism.

The point about the White Huns is a familiar one. Unfortunately, it is a decades-old theory and now disproven by modern scholars. See Kuwayama 2002 "Across the Hindukush of the First Millennium. A collection of Papers", Verardi 2011 "Buddhism in North-western India and Eastern Afghanistan, Sixth to Ninth Century AD"; Ashish Kumar 2021 "The Huns ('Hunas') in India: A Review"; and Bipin Shah 2023 "Last Hindu Empire of India - Gupta And Their Interactions with Kushan, Kidara and Alchon Huns and Aftermath".

Your point about the decline of Buddhism in that region stands however. Hinduism was very prominent there and the old-fashioned Buddhism of Asanga and Vasubandhu was no more.

I'll incorporate your thoughts into the next update for sure.
Riaman 29 May, 2024 @ 9:13pm 
And central and north eastern India also had animist presence that's just eaten up by the Buddhists blob.
Riaman 29 May, 2024 @ 9:06pm 
Though again this is not fault of this mod or you, it's just a problem in the base game. But just wanted to tell because you wanted to depict Buddhism as it was. And had a point about decline of Buddhism in your description. But the decline had started around 6th century, Islamic invasions were just final nail in the coffin withdestruction of Nalanda University, and removal of royal patronage, and Buddhist merchant class flipping to Islam. It's just in game religion of India is just ridiculous.
Riaman 29 May, 2024 @ 8:39pm 
Plus India always had a Significant Hindu population but current set up in CK3 is downright absurd. And disrespectful to Hindus. Like in 100 years from the second start date large swathes of northern India were conquered by Muslim rulers but somehow local population turned up Majority Hindu in our life. Isn't this quite absurd?

Check out Rajas of Asia mod for a way more balanced approach to actual history.
Riaman 29 May, 2024 @ 8:39pm 
Those North Indian plains other than under pala empire should be Hindu.

Kashmir valley (county of Kasmira) should be Trika Shaivism. Currently not present in game, Shaivism would make an okay replacement till it's implemented.

Buddhism was in decline even before Muslim invasions thanks to Adi Shankara debating over Buddhist monks and bringing Hinduism to masses. Islamic invasions were just final nail in the coffin. Likewise Buddhists dynasties were only successful around Bengal and Bihar under Pala Empire all other regions were dominated by Hindu dynasties for years.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be any Buddhism in India but majorly restricted to the eastern part. It's presence in North West and central India is way overdone.

Like Buddhism in Punjab should be outright replaced by Shaivism as it was eradicated during reign of Mihirakula Huna.
Kuro-B  [author] 29 May, 2024 @ 7:38pm 
@Riaman I'm open to constructive criticism! Where do you believe Buddhism was not present in India?

According to historical sources, Buddhism was on the decline during both bookmarks and didn't completely disappear until later in the medieval period. Contributing factors to its decline were (1) the fall of the Pala (Indian Buddhism heavily relied on royal patronage) and (2) the Muslim invasions (trade changed to Muslim instead of Buddhist merchants, and the mercantile class was the lifeblood of Indian Buddhism).

Chinese and Tibetan Buddhist pilgrimage accounts also reinforce the idea that Buddhism, at least in a more syncretic form, thrived in northern India and especially northeastern India for several centuries after the bookmarks.

If you have some scholarly sources to contradict this, please cite them and I can make corrections!
Kuro-B  [author] 29 May, 2024 @ 7:30pm 
@Fadeless Not yet compatible with those mods since they have their own religion and province changes. I'll release a compatch soon once I get the hang of where the conflicts are (and will update the mod description once I do so).
Riaman 29 May, 2024 @ 7:13pm 
I hope not Rajas of Asia is a way better religious representation of India, no way Buddhism was that wide spread in North India in 1066 or 867.
DragonBlade01 29 May, 2024 @ 6:59pm 
Thanks for this mod, I'm glad someone had know-how (not me) to make something like this for Buddhism!