Victoria 3

Victoria 3

Consolidate Subjects
43 Comments
CaelReader  [author] 17 Feb @ 6:16pm 
@Pastafarian nope
Pastafarian 17 Feb @ 6:15pm 
Hi, does this mod work for version 1.7? The acceptance status (2nd class citizen) concept doesn't seem to exist yet in 1.7
Cappuccino James 13 Aug, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
biggest question, does this fix the Raj and its minor states
CaelReader  [author] 12 Aug, 2024 @ 2:47pm 
@Pamparampampamparam I've seen it happen in my testing yes
Pamparampampamparam 12 Aug, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Will consolidated subjects form new nations? For instance, if I consolidate all the Central American states will they reform Central America?
MasterOfGrey 21 Jul, 2024 @ 5:10pm 
Thank you so much, greatly appreciate it.
CaelReader  [author] 21 Jul, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
@MasterOfGrey go ahead
CaelReader  [author] 21 Jul, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
@Anubis That makes sense, I've updated it so that Pan-Nationalism unlocks the ability to consolidate Kingdoms
MasterOfGrey 21 Jul, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
Hi Cael, would it be ok for me to please I include this in my Subject Interaction Suite mod?
I will set it up so that if people have both loaded - this one takes precedence.
And obviously I will of course credit you fully.

There are just a couple of tweaks which I think (subjectively) would be good for this so I'd like to put the options out there.
Anubis 16 Jul, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
Considering how many nations are considered a "Kingdom" despite being very small, it would probably be a good idea to add an alternative condition to that requirement in particular, as it is otherwise impossible to unify certain regions unless you deliberately avoid subjects that are considered Kingdoms.

Southeast Asia is a good example of this, where there are a lot of small nations that cannot be unified despite being culturally similar (by Victoria's standards), like the Philippines, Vietnam, Siam, Cambodia and a few others.
CaelReader  [author] 12 Jul, 2024 @ 8:02pm 
the target is subsumed into a random neighbor who meets the criteria. Usually there is only one.
Theta-6 12 Jul, 2024 @ 7:22am 
Is it A Random Consolidation like Federating Canada and Asutralia or do you Pick who Gets Consolidated into Who? For Example, In one of my Games i have Control over The East Indies as a Puppet (The British East Indies) and all of its Puppets. Would i get the Choice to Consolidate The Puppets into the Overlord or?
max2348 12 Jul, 2024 @ 7:00am 
Maybe could you try to move the Consolidate Subjects action from overlord act to diplomatic act, in order to have a lens view?
MasterOfGrey 8 Jul, 2024 @ 7:20pm 
"Dominions can now be consolidated if they are a Republic"
Amazing, love it
CaelReader  [author] 5 Jul, 2024 @ 12:10pm 
@McPepos I haven't seen anything related to that
McPepos 5 Jul, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Could this mess with stuff related to the Great Game? Not that I've experienced anything that I know of, just wondering if some afghan tag eating another could break an event chain or something
Sasi166 3 Jul, 2024 @ 6:56am 
if I were to get croatia, serbia, montenegro, and bosnia as subjects, can i consolidate them into 1 large subject (i.e. yugoslavia). alrenatively, if i get the afghan minors as subject can i consolidate them (i.e afghanistan)? some for indian minor after getting rid of EIC, or chinese minors after qing explodes. or indonesian minors after subjugationg them?
max2348 2 Jul, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
Thanks, I understand! So the only way to check is to go though each puppet tab and see if the button is available?
CaelReader  [author] 2 Jul, 2024 @ 9:42am 
@max2348 I tried adding an Alert for it but couldn't get it to work
max2348 1 Jul, 2024 @ 11:23pm 
Could you please look into adding some popup/notification/event diary that shows when the decision is available for one state? The only way to check it now is to go in the Interaction tab of each puppet
CaelReader  [author] 1 Jul, 2024 @ 5:53pm 
@MasterOfGrey that might be interesting
MasterOfGrey 1 Jul, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
perhaps if they're a republic?
CaelReader  [author] 1 Jul, 2024 @ 5:13pm 
@MasterOfGrey well *that ruler* whos getting consolidated is losing their position or getting vassalized under the other dominion or something, along with their court etc.
MasterOfGrey 1 Jul, 2024 @ 4:59pm 
Aye, not entirely at your mercy, but they're not losing any effective autonomy if they're merging with another dominion of same culture - isn't that the point of it requiring nationalism?
CaelReader  [author] 1 Jul, 2024 @ 11:48am 
@Kurt Yes. The cultural differences between princely states will block them from consolidating everyone though, it just creates fewer, larger princes.
CaelReader  [author] 1 Jul, 2024 @ 11:48am 
@MasterOfGrey I figure that the local administration is not entirely at your mercy as a Dominion, whereas a Puppet is sufficiently controlled that they can be dissolved and their lands handed over to another subject.
MasterOfGrey 30 Jun, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Also, following up on SgtPeppersSoul's suggestion - at pan-nationalism being able to do with with subjects who share a primary culture's culture trait (as long as they don't have National Supremacy law) would make sense.
MasterOfGrey 30 Jun, 2024 @ 5:05pm 
Any chance this could allow dominions to be consolidated into other dominions as well? It feels a little off to have to reduce the autonomy of a dominion to a puppet only to consolidate it with another a dominion.
Kurt 30 Jun, 2024 @ 1:25pm 
Is the AI supposed to use this?
Britain has consolidated about half of the Indian puppets now, took a while before it started but now it's pretty fast about it.
Abd121 29 Jun, 2024 @ 2:10pm 
Andromeda this is probably not needed since AI even as subject will always click formables, so if you consolidated all of Ethiopia into Harar or something, they will just form Ethiopia anyway.
Andromeda 29 Jun, 2024 @ 3:55am 
Something I feel like should have been available with the dlc, or at the very least, the ability to consolidate your subjects land into their formable nation so they can have the cultures added as well and make the subject really useful. Plus it seemed like how Afghanistan was going to work but it doesn't seem to.
Kurt 28 Jun, 2024 @ 7:31am 
Hey would it be possible to relax the requirements a bit for lower ranked subjects?
I'm playing the Dutch and the DEI subjects are such a massive and persistent pain to deal with, we need a button for subjects out of top 25 to just make the thing annex the other thing so it can be half as annoying.
Rettling 28 Jun, 2024 @ 7:26am 
awesome idea <3
CaelReader  [author] 27 Jun, 2024 @ 5:54pm 
@SgtPeppersSoul that's an interesting idea, to open it up more as you tech up. Africa is handled by the special Colonial Administration JEs though
SgtPeppersSoul 27 Jun, 2024 @ 5:51pm 
I might suggest that, after you reseach pan-nationalism, you should be able to consolidate subjects without the primary culture limit. In particular that would be useful for consolidating India, Indonesia and potentially parts of Africa into larger vassals.
CaelReader  [author] 27 Jun, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
@ab128 yes, but the restrictions are such that they're not going to just consolidate all their vassals. In my test game I saw GBR consolidate a couple princely states.
CaelReader  [author] 27 Jun, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
@Chris that's an interesting case, I'll look into it.
ab128 27 Jun, 2024 @ 2:08pm 
Does ai do this actively? I hope so because it would improve performance and not have some stupid civil wars everytime
Chris 27 Jun, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Could you maybe add a special case for China? Would be helpful to be able to reassemble them, but the main reasons it doesn't work is that:

1. China is an Empire
2. Many of the states don't share a culture
Aaronthelemon 27 Jun, 2024 @ 10:36am 
This should fix the Dutch east indies stupid micro puppet swarm
Taylor 26 Jun, 2024 @ 7:31pm 
Good stuff
soldiers[PL] 26 Jun, 2024 @ 2:55pm 
Gotta love when you need to slowly annex all of the princedoms in India one by one to feed it to Raj so they STOP HAVING REBELIONS EVERY 5 SECONDS, you're the best king
Guy Fawkes 26 Jun, 2024 @ 3:56am 
Thanks King, this is badly needed