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The new version has been updated

I'll try it, but it's nighttime in my time zone right now so I might get a reply tomorrow.

†JetBlack FallenAngel SAND† Hi, I apologize that your first comment didn't pop up on my notification so I didn't see it. Are all dwarfing actions (mining and digging) non-functional? I cannot replicate the error on my end, but there might be a mod conflict that patched-and-skipped the target methods this mod patched. Would you mind testing with only karma mod present? Or if you can share your player.log on pastebin or similar places, would be nice too.

I have tried changing the settings and testing how they work.

Detection Radius =
Setting 0 or a negative number will prevent the crime from being found.
Setting an integer will include that cell as a witness.
Tried -1, 0, 4, 8, 10

Difficulty Modifier =
Setting an integer makes the crime more difficult.
Setting a negative number makes the crime easier.
Tried 2000000000, -2000000000

[Harvest] settings are reflected normally.
[Dwarf] settings are not reflected or are not currently functioning.
That's all for the results.

If anyone has done Dwarf and is not detected by the guards, please write out the settings file and show it to me.

I ran the wall mining in an environment where only this mod and the two required mods "Custom Whatever Loader" and "Mod Help" were installed.

[Dwarf]
Patch enabled = true
Detection radius = i32
Difficulty modifier = i32

I set the radius and modifier to negative, zero, and positive values, but I was unable to run the wall mining without a guard called. I would like to know some example settings and the range of values ​​that can be set.

works great thank you so much!

@MrBrewed Thanks for the feedback, I've added an extra check for the mobs stealing, if steam doesn't auto update for you, please unsub and resub manually.

This is great for stealing from good people... But sadly this ruins stealing from monsters in the wilderness. As a fairy thief i'm able to pickpocket during combat, and since they are evil monsters...they don't count as theft.

With this mod installed, I am hemorrhaging karma from stealing in the wilderness. I guess its not super big deal I can just uninstall and reinstall as needed... But it would be awesome if there was some fix, or a variable that checks to see if the npc was always hostile and thus u dont lose karma.

I have tried changing four items in the config file:

Detection Radius = 4 → 0

Difficulty Modifier = 0 → -10, 10, etc.

When I use a pickaxe to destroy a wall in the city, the guards are called and the NPCs become hostile


Where should I change it?

@gari there's a difficulty setting for each behaviour in the config file.

Since EA24.74, even if I change the configuration, the surroundings become hostile while destroying something with a pickaxe or hammer.

Can I adjust the probability of being seen in the settings?

(I used Google translate)

@X10 big daddy deserve some love! I'll look into it. If you find any other bugs, lemme know

Not sure if it is cause by this mod or intended but enemy big daddy shows as witness and runs when I try to pickpocket them.

Karma On Caught 1.4:
Update with much more update-resilient patches and more config values.
包含不易被更新nuke的补丁和更多可配置值。
更新されにくいブランチやより多くの設定可能な値が含まれています。

@Sawai_P try a website called pastebin

The MOD wasn't working at first, but there was an update for the main unit around 23:00 UTC on January 5th, and after applying this the MOD started working again.

Thanks, I will send the logs the way you gave me, but how do I send them to you?

@Sawai_P it's working fine for me on both branches. Might be a mod conflict that skipped the original method of the game mechanics and rewrote it in their own

@DK Is the mod still functioning in your environment today, and is the karma still undiminished?

@Sawai_P I don't see any relevant changes in EA 23.74, would you elaborate and share the Player.log file via pastebin or similar tool at YourUserFolder/AppData/LocalLow/Lafrontier/Elin/Player.log

Hi, it seems that the mod has been disabled in this update EA23.74.

Very nice mod, DK. Thank you! :)

1.3: 更新修复了一处游戏近期更新导致的目击者数量不正确bug
1.3: Updated a workaround for a bug in recent Elin update where witnesses are not correctly listed

可能难度设太简单了，这就提升地狱难度

嗯。。我最后在贴脸偷东西的情况下才被两个目击者抓现行，而且我已经偷出来了两个东西

我这里也遇到了当面犯罪没有惩罚的BUG，但是我盗窃和撬锁只有3和9，灵巧也只有34

@Linzcin 是不是你属性太高了

不知道为什么我这边启动模组后 我不管干什么都没人抓我现行(当着别人的面也是)。是不是因为这一次更新。

you can dismantle an entire town lol

呜呼！

只要不被发现就不算犯罪
————奈亚子

@Potoo, yes I agree with you on the literal meaning of karma, but in the game I felt it's not a guard's place to judge me by my karmic level - since karma is supposed to be reflected from some omnipotent figure, not us common plebs, which is why I made the mod.
Like you said, it's just how the game made the system and used word "karma", could have gone better with "crime level/bounty" or something.

Indulge me this pedantry for but a moment, comment section, but the concept of Karma (as a concept in the real world) is a system that transcends physical vision. It is not contingent on requiring a witness seeing you do a bad thing that gets you bad karma, it is doing a bad thing at all. You're conflating witness of thievery with karma. If I kill a man with no witnesses around, I will still get bad karma.

How this system translates to actual game systems is a whole other thing though, technically guards shouldn't know your karmic level (unless you give off visible evil aura or something, which we can assume is the case).

感谢作者！！！

Update 1.2: Added karma on caught behavior for harvesting, lockpicking, and dwarfing.
更新1.2: 收获，撬锁，以及矮人行为(!!!)也适用。

挖盗贼工会底下的金砖也扣善恶，想问问能不能改成没被发现也不会扣善恶

@DK i heard it was what, 5+ years already in development? Thats why im kinda bummed that this sort of thing not in the base game that positions itself as sandbox rpg.

@Alt game is still much worth it and don't let this small qol thing bother you - Elin is still on EA after all

Interested in this game. Just bought it. And... This is not in the base game? How the hell so many people like it then if such a basic feature not in it? So without this mod it doesnt make a difference if i steal in front of everyone or not? Big L for the game... Already have conflicting feelings about buying it...

Can you add an option to add extra karma loss when caught? To balance it out I mean. Like -5 Karma when caught instead of -1.

Can you make this for cutting trees, harvesting, mining etc?

11/10. Amazing

Finally came to this mod after watching my karma tank for stealing while somehow being spotted by the invisible men. I get its a mechanic but karma farming is REALLY boring, 10/10 mod.

Great mod! c:

@Jolgame Noted

ハンマーを使った建物の解体にも応用していただけませんか？

nice, now i actually have a reason to hide, and not to just outright steal in front of everyone because i get the penalty anyway

@D I was wondering why everyone tried to beat me up this morning. Then I realized I didn't escort a person to their destination in time. Must be the cause of negative karma I got?

@D If you are not downloading the mod then go away. Dude thinks he is smart. No one gives you an F.