Victoria 3

Victoria 3

Phenotypes Plus - More Ethnic Variety Please!
49 Comments
Darkfalcone 16 Jul @ 12:52am 
For some reason, I cannot disable this mod from my modlist, the game will always crash even if I start a new game. Is there a way for me to fix this? Because right now this mod is in conflict with Manaflow Ankaris mod, causing the Melanesian people to be invisible.
Quantum Ramen 24 Jun @ 8:04pm 
Don't think the mod is working correctly on the newest update. Can't really see any of the unique phenotypes, especially for Spanish and Italians.
LuLq 19 Jun @ 10:24am 
:GDNormal:
NeoMexilio  [author] 18 Jun @ 11:40pm 
@LuLq It should be 1.9 compatible, but I will soon add an update so that the launcher doesn't freak out
BreadDaddyLenin 18 Jun @ 9:47pm 
@LuLq so far yes
LuLq 18 Jun @ 2:21am 
Works fine on 1.9?
NeoMexilio  [author] 28 May @ 9:39am 
@dissatisfieduser Cool! Feel free to merge it or use it as a dependency.
dissatisfieduser 27 May @ 10:56pm 
Hello, I'm working on a modern age total conversion mod and want to incorporate your mod.
1230james 26 May @ 4:52pm 
the change notes button is right there bro
Quantum Ramen 26 May @ 4:08pm 
what did the new update add?
NeoMexilio  [author] 20 May @ 10:09pm 
I apologize for the wait, but I had some end-of-year stuff to handle. The fix should come very soon (I hope)
utka818 26 Apr @ 10:46am 
mr, neomexilio, are you planning to fix the data error?
_Sun_Man_ 4 Apr @ 10:33am 
update: I'm at my windows PC and it's the same, it still says parsing metadata failed
_Sun_Man_ 4 Apr @ 2:49am 
I'm on mac and I can't use this mod because it says parsing metadata failed
TurtleShroom 26 Mar @ 4:14pm 
If you plan on adding Melanesians, remember that they are the only non-whites on the earth capable of having natural blonde hair ! Watch out for people telling you that's inaccurate; I was once one of them!
utka818 8 Mar @ 11:51am 
There is a problem with the data, how to solve it?
NeoMexilio  [author] 12 Jan @ 12:11am 
@Lord R
Thanks! I've decided on giving everything a look-over before adding Native Americans. Getting out the rough edges before adding more.
Lord R 12 Jan @ 12:07am 
The revised ethnicities look fantastic!
NeoMexilio  [author] 11 Jan @ 7:13pm 
I finished adding ethnicities to all cultures in the old world, BUT they are subject to changes. The next update will be said revisions or native american ethnicities.
Lord R 1 Jan @ 1:19pm 
But again, it is quite impressive what you already did and I'm looking forward to what you will do in the future :)
Lord R 1 Jan @ 1:18pm 
@NeoMexilo: No worries! I tried tweaking them for Morgenröte but it is really hard to get them to not look uncanny...
I think the easiest but most exhausting way would be to create a lot of ethnicities with faces that look okay and have slight built in variation to them. But as I said, that would be a lot of work.
I think hair, skin and eye colors already make a huge difference for Europeans though. Like Nordic people having more blonde hair, etc.
NeoMexilio  [author] 1 Jan @ 12:46pm 
@Lord R
Yeah, I also was thinking about how to add more diversity without it making combinations that look uncanny.
But you got a good point, I'll try to revise the facial diversity. I was a minor debate i was having, but figured actually finishing the rest of the world was more important at the time.

(Also, the waluigi thing is because Mediterranean was the first one I made. I had limited experience with the portrait editor beforehand, so they ended up kinda funky looking lol)
Lord R 1 Jan @ 12:27pm 
So I have been looking into your files and tested the ethnicities a little bit in the portrait editor. I noticed that the people now look very similar which is especially interesting with the mediterranean ethnicity as those people kind of look like Waluigi.
I think you might have limited variety too much in you ethnicities which leads to people looking very similar in one ehtnicity template. I think it might be better to add more variety in the genes like vanilla does it.
Another cool thin that I just tested with Morgenröte is to also add ethnicities to limit facial hair. E.g. I added one ethnicity without facial hair, one with shorter beards and one with bigger beards to the alemannic culture to basically repreduce the people living on the countryside as well as the people living in the cities. And to not get weird combinations like a huge beard without a mustache, etc.
SnowBear 1 Jan @ 5:25am 
Why are you guys replying to the obvious troll? 😅 Just report them and move on

They sound like those racist trolls who would false flag as another culture just to make that culture look bad (making unsubstantiated accusations against the modder, cultural gatekeeping and saying Europeans are effectively one ethnic group should clue everyone in)
danonymous 1 Jan @ 5:19am 
@JJ are you saying if a south Italian and a Nordic guy stood next to each other, you wouldn't be able to tell which is which?
JJ 1 Jan @ 4:30am 
Nobody is "taking the piss", using discredited and unproven "phenotypes" like "Adriatic" and "Alpine" is concerning to say the least. More importantly, we do know with current research that Europeans have such low levels of genetic diversity, they can be considered effectively a single ethnic group. Even phenotypically, there's not as much diversity compared to Africa or Asia.

Anyway, I understand the mod creator will choose to inaccurately generalise Africa and Asia and focus on Europe.
1230james 31 Dec, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
JJ here is too retarded to comprehend the idea that modders are, in fact, unpaid and generally only working out of passion and is unable to understand that sometimes people want to share a product with partial coverage and release updates later, please cut him some slack 🙏
MissingNo 31 Dec, 2024 @ 2:12pm 
@JJ Hello, as a fellow American imperialist pig for gatekeeping other cultures, can you teach me your ways? I highly appreciate it if you do
Ender 31 Dec, 2024 @ 2:10pm 
jj u gotta be takin the piss
JJ 31 Dec, 2024 @ 9:59am 
Doesn't mean you're African-American

A generalisation unless it's Europe, where you've somehow created multiple phenotypes in Western Europe, when there are obviously far, far more phenotypes in Sub-Saharan Africa.
NeoMexilio  [author] 31 Dec, 2024 @ 12:44am 
God forbid i use my native dialect 💀 (I'm not white)

Also, I have already stated this mod is a huge generalization, because if it wasn't I'd be working on this forever
JJ 30 Dec, 2024 @ 7:18pm 
First of all, don't use "bruh" that's AAVE

Secondly, I seriously doubt you'd be able to even accurately complete 1 country in Sub-Saharan Africa correctly in a "couple days". The Old World is Afro-Eurasia.
NeoMexilio  [author] 30 Dec, 2024 @ 4:52pm 
Ideally I want to wrap up the Old World in said update
NeoMexilio  [author] 30 Dec, 2024 @ 4:51pm 
In other news. I plan to drop an update to this in a couple days (early January give or take)
NeoMexilio  [author] 30 Dec, 2024 @ 11:50am 
Oh my gah, it's Lord R Mörgenrote
Lord R 30 Dec, 2024 @ 11:18am 
Cool Mod! I'm looking forward to playing with it!
Hyperborean Crusader 30 Dec, 2024 @ 10:48am 
or you could add a pop called "white brazilian", if you also plan on adding pops into the game.
Hyperborean Crusader 30 Dec, 2024 @ 10:47am 
You could change the brazilian phenotype, cuz the vanilla one is pretty innacurate, not totally innacurate though. Brazilians are very diverse, but overall half of us are white and the other half is mixed (like depicted on vanilla). My suggestion: Keep one of the people mixed and change the other one to mediterranean white.
SnowBear 30 Dec, 2024 @ 10:20am 
@NeoMexilio Yeah Mr Modder, how come your unfinished mod didn't ship with every phenotype on the globe huh?? smh my head my head 😤 /jk

On a more serious note, great mod! Does it conflict with any other mods (like say clothing mods)?
NeoMexilio  [author] 30 Dec, 2024 @ 9:40am 
This mod just isn't finished yet bruh
JJ 29 Dec, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
Even within Ethiopia, there are Amhara with golden brown skin, hook noses, small-medium lips

then you've got the Somalis in eastern Ethiopia with dark skin or (sometimes) golden brown skin, thin small noses, medium lips and wavy/lightly curly hair,

then you go to southern Ethiopia like the Mursi with dark skin, wide noses, full lips and Afro-textured hair

And that's 1 country in Africa.

Ethiopia has almost as many official ethnicities (over 80) as the whole EU (87)
JJ 29 Dec, 2024 @ 10:44pm 
Of course, ignore the most genetically, ethnically, phenotypically diverse region on the planet (Sub-Saharan Africa)

If they tried to add enough accurate phenotypes, there'd be more in Africa than anywhere else
skie 29 Dec, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
nice!, looking forward to see how you deal with the ethnic chaos that is brazil lol.
NeoMexilio  [author] 29 Dec, 2024 @ 2:04pm 
Thanks for the suggestion, I apparently just forgot to add brown hair to Germans lol
danonymous 29 Dec, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
I think you should adjust the hair and eye color of the "germanic" ethnicity, since this mod makes almost all of the Germanics blonde and blue eyed, which should probably be more common in the "ugro slavic" ethnicity imo.
Kag 29 Dec, 2024 @ 5:27am 
This is really cool! Makes each region feel a bit more unique :)
Livhavet 29 Dec, 2024 @ 3:07am 
Thank you :)
NeoMexilio  [author] 29 Dec, 2024 @ 3:05am 
Some sources I was finding were from the eugenics era of anthropology... had to dodge those :steamthumbsdown:
Baliczek 29 Dec, 2024 @ 2:14am 
ahhh, yes... racism at last in Victoria III