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This bug is potentially a huge problem in singleplayer for anyone using the mod reasons that don't even need explaining; hopefully if this is a recurring problem that other players have had with the Haiti mod, you could address it if you ever patch this particular mod again. Might be an isolated incident, but I'm letting you know just in case
Anyways, regardless of the bug, I love the concept of the Haiti civ and would love to play a non-bugged version. All your other mods are awesome and work fine. Keep up the work man =]
In any case, like you said, it's all a moot point, since Dessalines isn't even the leader, it's Toussaint.
For the sake of accuracy, I think it would be better to put "Neg Mawon", for "Mawon" refers to brown, however Neg Mawon was the term used for said fugitive slaves.
(source : Haitian Heritage, native born-haitian father)
kthnxbai
@ruhrgebietheld: (on the bug reported) Hmn... I may have gotten something wrong when adding the missionary replacement lua code... Until I get a fix please try using whoward's DLL which adds the ability of using Custom Missionaries without extra shenanigans.
@francois: Can I see the path of where you're extracting the Haiti mod please? That might help.
Some scholars in the field of genocide studies hold that intent of annihilation is a requirement for something to be classed as a genocide. The general public as a whole adopts this view of genocide. In reality, very few campaigns actually qualify as genocide under this standard. None of the three examples you mentioned actually qualify under this reasoning, for a few reasons.
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I think people who use that standard are wrong, as I, like you, think that scale is a much more important factor than intent of total annihalition. It's why I believe that what Stalin did was even worse than what Hitler did (plus the fact that he did it during "peacetime" and under the cloak of deception). However, I do understand the thinking of the people here who are using that standard to object to the inclusion of Haiti.
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You say it's all about the difference in intent. I don't know if intent even matters compared to the sheer number of victims, but in any case, it's a moot point. It's just not true that white-perpetrated genocides were intended only to remove resistance while sparing the majority of the population. Many Native American tribes were completely wiped out by whites, to the last man, woman, and child. The only reason people don't see this as a total genocide is a semantic trick where people see Native Americans as just one group of people. For example, the Taino, the Calusa, the Pequot, all completely erased. Those were total genocides whose numbers of victims most likely exceed the whites killed in Haiti.
Feel free to do whatever you want with it - and thanks for the civ! :)
By the way, if you're referring to the 1804 massacre, that happened AFTER Toussaint was killed. And when you compare 3000-5000 dead with some of the genocides that whites were perpetrating around the world at the time...it doesn't compare.