Hello, i made 2X unit submod for All OvN factions:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?edit=true&id=3522962394

Enjoy the mod but not enjoying the sheer number of fishmen units in a myriad of AI armies. Configuration options for their presence and culture availability would be fantastic.

@I AM GRUNGNAR Why WOULDN'T it work with Fimir? I just played Kroll and the cult spawned on second turn I think.

I think the Cult appears a bit too early, on many campaigns it has spawned in first few turns and it really hampers growth early on for many factions. Also agree with Nampot there, that it's a bit too common for armies to have them on almost every faction.

I hope the fishmen get added as a playable faction at some point, they're genuinely cool and it feels like a waste to just make them mercenaries.

I love the idea of this mod, but I turned it off because it did not take long before each and every army I came across in a campaign had a bunch of Fishmen in it, so I ended up getting tired of seeing them. It would be nice if maybe they were a little rarer, region specific, or if only certain factions were inclined to pick them up.

Thanks for this mod! I have made a German translation, can you link it? Keep up the good work!

Kind of curious, are Halflings still on the table for being added?.....Or did CA ask you not too? heheheheh hohohoho hahahaha. I love me Tinfoil hats.

Great addition here from team OVN! not long done a mod showcase on a couple of your mods and have been loving them! Looking forward to what you create in the future, keep it up!

does this work with the fimir mod, im thinking about a thematic kroll campaign

@Walt The Why +1

Does this work mid save file or do i have to start a new save?

Is there a way to limit the AI using them? I'm enjoying the faction a ton but when EVERY race on the map recruits them it really hurts the immersion.

What happens if I confederate a lord who had a fishmen village in one of their settlements? Should I get it? Will it pop back up again? I'm playing Carcassonne in the Old World mod and after confederating Quennelles they had a couple of Clam riders. They were at war with the wood elves so they may have lost the settlement? I don't know.

Hello, OvN team! I was wondering, what's your current project? I'm excited for new mods if there will be any.

Yes that’s intended

in the race tab the Acolyte is listed as a lord, but he can only be recruitet as a basic unit, with all spells unlocked. Is this intended?

I wonder if Fimir should have access, or increased access, to Fishmen units. Both factions feel fairly aligned in theming.

@SRJT16 Well the fishmen would protect only the village and not your settlement for once and they are strong units so a little effort to keep them is alright imho

Shredder of Lustria//Then you haven't read the description of the mod

I have all the required mods downloaded and turned on but when I go to immortal empires campaign the fisherman are not a choice at the faction section screen. They are simply not there, no clue what I should do.

@Lingling is there any reason why the fishing village doesn't provide a garrison? This would be a nice addition to help protect the settlement that contains your only access to Fishmen.

Yeah and only a few of the cultures can. I'll add the list to the description if I remember to do it next time. Here is the code list

["wh_main_sc_emp_empire"] = true,
["wh_main_sc_brt_bretonnia"] = true,
["wh3_main_sc_ksl_kislev"] = true,
["wh2_main_sc_hef_high_elves"] = true,
["wh3_main_sc_cth_cathay"] = true,
["wh_main_sc_dwf_dwarfs"] = true,
["wh2_dlc09_sc_tmb_tomb_kings"]=true,
["wh2_dlc11_sc_cst_vampire_coast"]=true,
["wh2_main_sc_def_dark_elves"]=true,
["wh2_main_sc_lzd_lizardmen"]=true,
["wh2_main_sc_skv_skaven"]=true,
["wh3_main_sc_ogr_ogre_kingdoms"]=true,
["wh_dlc05_sc_wef_wood_elves"]=true,
["wh_dlc08_sc_nor_norsca"]=true,
["wh_main_sc_grn_greenskins"]=true,
["wh_main_sc_grn_savage_orcs"]=true,
["wh_main_sc_teb_teb"]=true,
["wh_main_sc_vmp_vampire_counts"]=true,
["ovn_sc_alb_albion"]=true,
["ovn_sc_arb_araby"]=true,
["ovn_sc_fim_fimir"]=true,

I don’t think WoC can get the unusual locations currently

I've never gotten the opportunity to recruit them as warriors of chaos, any tips?

Yes they are in the works

Will you ever bring the halflings back?

A shame to hear, but ultimately expected. Hopefully when all the remaining OvN mods are ported from 2, you might change your mind but like you said, don't hold my breath.

And yeah I understand the Cthulhu mythos inspiration, but it did also give vibes to how the Cult of the Hydra was in Troy, what with them both being mercenary units you can recruit from shady cults, and unless I'm remembering it wrong, could have sworn you got debuffs from some of the interactions with the cult or their buildings in Troy, much like how the village causes growth and control debuffs.

@sword of war Yes Amazons are still in the works.

@ Wolfie von Carendot No, inspiration didn’t come from Troy but from lovecraft and the shadow over innsmouth story. We tried to integrate that with existing lore.

And in general: There are no plans to make this into a full faction or add anymore units. So don’t hold your breath

Also, was this mod by any chance inspired by the Cult of the Hydra from Troy? Definitely gives the vibes, but could just be pure coincidence given it's two sketchy cults dedicated to ancient horrors.

Chiming in with a lot of people in hoping that this bad boy gets updated with more content down the line. Obviously the OvN mods are always solid, but this one especially feels like a blast, and while we can understand the idea of them being mercenaries, would be fun to see a few more additions, be it more horrors from the deep or more variants of Fishmen.

seems pretty cool, hope someday it can be made into a full faction, maybe even a addon for the fimir.

any word on the Amazons being brought back yet?

playing as a lovecraft faction wound be interesting

Not compatible mod: Piratical Encounters (with Southern Realms & High Elf Sea Patrol support) by Vacuity,will straight up erasing every starting hero or land encounters. Since that mod had not been updated for a while, maybe not because of codes conflicts

Love this mod. I do wish it was a full faction cause I’d love to run full armies of these units in campaign, but I do love the use of the unusual location feature.

JETownsend// Yeah, I forgot to put that restraint for the AI. But still could keep it if there aren't convenient command for it

I think Vampire coast these some units

Fantastic mod, Great work. My only critique is that the AI seems to put a huge amount of fishmen in their armies even if they don't have access to a port settlement. It's a bit odd to see a swarm of skaven come from the mountains with fishmen giants in tow.

Someone should make a submod that adds these units to the baseline Vampire Coast faction. Would do well to help diversify their roster a bit while remaining in theme

Doriath//We have, but the agent_type is determined by the culture and it was causing lore problems and we decided to not do that

Have you considered adjusting the abyssal acolyte to be a hero rather than a spellcasting unit?

Yes/ Thank you so much!

Are you at least going to add the units from the Monstrous Arcanum that would fit with the Fishmen?

its not loading. why?

these are horrifying i love em

these are totally inspired by the deep ones from the cthulhu mythos

would it spawn in ogre and orc cities?

The madlads actually did it... BRAVO!

hey i don't know why but your mod ain't showing up for me.