@teneski Oh yes, I should patch that. I'll make a GitHub issue today so I don't forget. If I fix that, One expensive option that should still work I think would be to get bionic reproductive parts, if they both have them and have their fertility setting to trying to have a baby they should still be guaranteed to get pregnant when they do lovin. You'd have to be able to set the setting though, which I think is currently blocked?

I've found a bug, or rather an expected behavior in a new context.

My colony has two wives, one of whom is trans, but the social tab shows they're infertile. It took a long time to realize why... she's 52. Female pawns' fertility falls to 0% at age 50.

Her siring capability is effectively halted by a menopause which wouldn't apply. It seems that fertility should be applied based on siring/carrying, not male/female. Likely easier said than done, I realize.

...thinking about it, if I continue HRT for 20 more years and keep my actual siring capability it'll be a small miracle

Also her wife is 48, so their chances are down to 2% already anyway. It's sort of a moot point. But I figured I'd let you know.

My internalized phobic reply guy is having an aneurysm from me describing this bug. If the person reading this has gotten real angry about gender definitions, I've taken this minute of your time and I'm putting it with the rest.

I offer my appreciation for this mod. Be true to you!

Also just realized because of your patches, I can finally used Non-binary! Yipeee!

Love this mod a lot, thank you so much :)

Yep

@azrazalea so even tho the modloader says they dont work I use your mod NBG+intimacy+WBR and itll work?

@michael j. caboose Yes it does. However, my patch hacks them to work together with the caveat I wrote in the mod description.

In game mod loader says Intimacy and WBR are incompatible with NBG

@wolf/adder Thank you! I'm glad the expanded mod is being useful to people

Turned out the bug was just on my machine and was due to having NBG installed as both a local mod and steam mod simultaneously lol. So no known bugs

@azrazalea Thanks so much! I got impatient and started playing and it's working great

just wanted to say we all appreciate you.

@Sep Yep that's how I'm currently running and it seems to be working. There is a minor bug in the WBR UI hookup code that I need to get around to patching but it hasn't caused any issues for me really

I know it says that Intimacy, Way Better Romance and Non Binary Gender together are compatible, but how about this, WBR and NBG, without Intimacy? Thank you! Awesome mod

@stark raving sane Oooh that's a good point. I'll have to watch for that if/when I get around to doing a body part as well. I'm sure I can figure out a way to handle it.

@cookie of fish Yeah, after talking to some people I think i'll keep this one going. Still obsessed with 1.6 odyssey though so not getting much done atm besides some bug fixes.

I think I speak for a good amount of people when I say: I'd much rather have this, made in good faith, than anything made by Turkler. They're a bit of an asshole, in addition to other things.

But that's just me. Thank you for working on this, regardless of your decision to continue or not. o7 It means a lot to some people.

Just gave the Gender Works mod a spin. Thought I should let you know that it breaks in a way that this mod currently avoids. Some mods (Big and Small, for example) add new body layouts. Pawns with those body plans are all sterile since GW relies on a specific body part that isn't there. This mod works just fine since the hediff is applied to the whole body.

cissies complaining about a rimworld transgender mod like it's a sign of the end time, you guys are soft

Pure cringe that people actually live out their fetishes in videogames...

We'll see, if turkler takes theirs in a direction I don't love then I'll keep this indefinitely. Honestly I mainly add things for my own playthroughs so it is done how I was wanting it for me. The only thing turkler's has that I want is the body parts thing, which was next on my list (https://github.com/azrazalea/Simple-Trans/issues/1) and shouldn't take long once I have time.

sorry to see you're thinking of dropping this mod. i don't play much with reproduction myself, but what i liked the most about the original version was the very simple ability to have the trans hediff for roleplay value. will be sad to lose that. thank you for this mod however you choose ♥

o7

Hey everyone, new trans mod just dropped by turkler https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3534254491 . I'll be continuing this mod for the foreseeable future, at least as long as it has more features than that one. If turkler's ends up doing everything this one does (which it appears to be heading that direction) I'll probably drop this one. Given the clout behind the author name, the Intimacy one will likely get more compatibility work from other mod authors long term

<3

Thank you for this mod! I love rimworld but have been really feeling the lack of nuance with its sex system :T I hugely appreciate having this <3

"Trans" are disappearing. Sanity returns.

the bigots are coming out in droves

Do pawns kill themselves before or after the self mutilation?

thank you so much for putting this out! excited to try it out in my next playthrough <3

人森 this mod does not deal with sexuality at all, when combined with Way better romance that mod does and as mentioned in comments, description, and change notes I have a hack in place where if you also have non-binary gender everyone is attracted to them and they are attracted to everyone.

There is a "both" reproductive capability option both in pawn generation and in the debug actions. You can change the chances of it in the settings along with everything else.

The problem from a few days ago has been solved.
Is there a bisexual or futa option?

Or, alternate idea, what if you have a newborn specific hediff that says something like "Assigned at Birth" or just "Unknown Gender"?

Just spitballing here, I haven't made a mod this complex for Rimworld, but what if there was a hediff "hidden-cisgender" and "hidden-transgender" that's marked as debug visibility only, then on age transition you can convert it to the existing "cisgender" and "transgender". I'm for this being configurable, but it might be neat to have an option where it becomes progressively more likely to self-realize at each age transition (ie, 10% at 3, 50% at 10, 100% at 13). Nice mod anyway, appreciate the good work.

@ivory Should be fixed with latest build, I got too excited when removing extra code I had in the ritual and removed the trigger for the dialog on accident.

@kateye it's complicated, the easy thing to say would be to wait until a certain age to assign things but then you have people complain that it says people can't know they are trans earlier. I'll look at finding a way though long term, maybe making it configurable or asking each growth point or something?

Request: I don't really know how to fix it, but it seems odd that I can see whether a newborn is cis or trans. Maybe this should be selected at childhood? Or maybe it can be selected at birth but debug-hidden until childhood? I know I personally knew when I was like 5 or 6 but I know other trans people who didn't figure it out until teen or adult.

@ivory I did just change the ritual to try to fix some things, possible that broke, i'll take a look tonight.

@indigo cactus Not interested in this myself

@mian replicate Feel free to make an addon if you want

for some reason the gender affirm party is not bringing up the dialogue to change name/gender, despite it working earlier in the playthrough. does it need to be done on someone who's trans, does it need to be meaningful/transformative, or what else could cause this? i can post a log if needed

I agree with the bottom. The design of Rimworld would make this addition much welcomed <3. If not, would it be okay for me to make an addon for this as a dependency that does add transphobia and transphile?

Any chance you could add transphobia precepts or traits? It's an awful thing IRL, obviously, but in Rimworld I feel like it could make for good stories - especially in situations where trans folks are themselves transphobic.

I understand if you'd rather not allow such things in the mod considering it seems very trans-positive as a whole. I love this mod the way it is, it's far more lightweight and polished than many other mods that do similar things.

Baffles my mind how some people have so much hatred for a random group of people that's done no harm to them that they feel the need to come here and yap. I've never even met a trans person, as is probably the case with all of these people. Literally the only reason ya'll feel this way is because billionaire funded propaganda needs to keep you from hating the folks actually fucking you over (the rich). If only you weren't too pea brained to not fall for it hook line and sinker. Trans people are of course more different and alien from you than the rich dudes you should actually hate, so they must be the true enemy. Ya'll are falling for the oldest trick in the book, all because different things are scary to your tiny little minds.

@everyone This release includes an optional (as in, only loads if you load the right mod combination) NASTY hack to make non-binary gender work with Intimacy and Way Better Romance (instead of previously just intimacy). I've ran it for about a week without issues, but there are probably bugs. Only loads if you have Non-Binary gender with one or both of Intimacy and Way Better Romance. Way Better Romance will complain it is not compatible with Non-Binary gender, you can ignore that thanks to the hack. Long term Way Better Romance and I are going to try to work on making this work correctly instead of a hack.

Okay my game wouldn't launch due to an error in my massive mod list so I went ahead and worked on this now. @Stark Raving Sane I think I got the ritual cleaned up, your info was helpful! I didn't test it thoroughly but it at least seems to behave better now. Only functionality lost was special extra good memory for the celebrant but I'll work on adding that back in later.


@Specific Ocean Looking into body purists next. I checked and body modders don't see them as mods (besides prosthetics/bionics versions), checking into purists now.

I'm going to take a look this weekend if not before. @stark raving sane @specific ocean got issues created
https://github.com/azrazalea/Simple-Trans/issues/8
https://github.com/azrazalea/Simple-Trans/issues/9

I think I've found a way to reproduce the issue Stark Raving Sane is reporting on the mood effects being "off by one" but I haven't yet seen the preview showing all -4. Either way I'll be looking into it

The hediffs register as body modifications to body purists, and can second what Stark is saying about the parties mood effects.

I don't think there is anything in the configs for those frameworks that would break this.
I do have a couple more details after poking around a bit more:
It seems like the actual resulting mood is off by one. Satisfying party gave a disappointing mood, and a Inspiring party gave a satisfying mood.
Using Character editor, I also noticed that the thoughts don't seem to be implemented the same as in vanilla. All of the moods for the gender party are a RimWorld.Thought_Memory (SimpleTrans_AttendedGenderAffirmParty) with different BaseMood values across multiple stages (0-3). However, base game rituals are different. Each result has a distinct, stage 0 thought. (i.e. UnforgetableSkyLanterns) Each of these is a RimWorld.Thought_AttendedRitual instead of a memory. Speculation: the result preview is showing the stage 0 modifier for all results.
Hopefully this helps. Ultimately, I can just fix my pawns thoughts manually if need be.

bruh

Have you made any interesting choices in the settings of those few mods you tested with?
What happens if you use a fresh Condig-folder?

I'm afraid I'm mystified. Using the steam version (made sure I wasn't using my local version), this mod list https://rentry.co/w6kp66hf , and it works perfectly. I even tried removing odyssey to see if somehow that was making it work