really hope this comes to the game eventually

product > viaduct (i like viaduct, but i like this WAY more)

man.
im really hope this map could be in the game oficially, if we had Pelican Peak AND THEN Penguin Peak wich are basically the same, the same can happen with this one (and i really hope that cuz this map is better than Viaduct in my Opinion)

looks 10x better than viaduct

thank you very much for confirming!

Hi Albert, this version is koth_product_final

excuse me, is the version on the steam workshop koth_product_final or is it a different one?

What's the latest map update for?

sorry developer

Use console commands tf_bot_add [number]

no i mean how to change it so i can play in an actual game

After you subscribe to the map, type the following in the developer console:
map workshop/454272353

5 stars very good

to play this map you do "map workshop/454272353" without the quotes and this goes for all other maps on the steam workshop you just replace the numbers on the end

how do I get the map once ive subscribed

im going to assume its rc9.

Is this rc8 or rc9?

This is the best map! - Said no pub player ever.

How do i run this map?

Pretty sure this is actually a competitive map

how do you actually run this map

PLEASE ADD THIS VALVE BECAUSE ITS EPIC

Best map ever

Product was created from the original Viaduct map, without snow to maximize performance and with improved mechanics to balance it in competitive play. The most important change is the tunel/connector, and also a small health pack in the tunel

what is the difference between this map and the original viaduct? (aside from the BEAUTIFUL aesthetics)

Uggggh Every game i try to join has a password,all i wanna do is play the awesome viaduct reskin is see FUNKe playing with his highlander team

too much desert and snow in tf2 good job

i love this map, thank you for making it <3

Illuminati confirmed????

is that a viaduct reskin or is viaduct a reskin of this??????

steam , add this.

@Catzscratch It's spelt correctly. koth_viaduct_pro was renamed to koth_product 7 months ago

@Wc Duck- its a competitive map. Probably most popular comp map out there.

Ok it's just viaduct pro. I don't see why it should be added really

how do i play on it in games when i try to join games with this map i cant do it but im subscribed to this.

pelase

You didnt spell "koth_viaduct_pro" correctly

n.mn.

bvc vv

What is the diff

Cool map I like it

it works better.

@Stric_Matic

That's the thing, though. The addition of the flank there means you have pretty much no cover when you're on mid, so you're always caught in the spam.

BEST MAP!

i have to be honest, i think this looks nicer than viaduct

@zedxenon:

I don't think that's the reworked map's fault, but rather the fault of the base Viaduct's layout itself, which isn't greatly changed here. Viaduct is the only KOTH map where the middle area is the narrowest point of the map - the other maps are generally very wide at the middle, allowing teams to circle aroundthe point and try to flank from at least one, if not both sides.

Viaduct basically funnels both teams into this narrow middle area that gets super congested in a 20+ player pub server, and there's zero alternate paths to flank/circle around. It's just a head-on charge to try and take the point from the other team.

This Pro version at least add a single side path that sorta makes flanking easier, but it's not enough to prevent it being just a sloggish spamfest in a pub.

Plays fine in comp, but it becomes an absolute clusterfuck in pubs from my experience.

how find the map?

Now this is what we actually need for TF2. Everyone who put up a trade minecraft map should stick a Caber up there arse. Also screw everyone who liked Trainsawlazer is awesome.

@TopSteakYo Snow itself causes absolutely no performance loss. The weather particles, however, do.

The actual reason most comp maps ditch snow is because colourblind players can have difficulty identifying certain players.