the issue now is that Kyle went full derp with siege for the 2nd time and has totally ruined it again. Does he get cabin fever or something because last year around Jan-Feb siege went total shit too.

http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/137985/here-we-go-again-siege-update?new=1

All that Rusty & Ghoul want are to take something they see succesful and put their name on it and reep the rewards. What they fail to understand is that is not how this works. Siege is succesful because I spent 9 months day and night babysitting, micro managing, fine tuning the server. I listen to the players feedback, I update based on, Rusty here has failed to have a succesful server, he's having an identity crisis, first he wants ns2c, then he wants captains, then he wants vanilla, none of them work. So instead of coming up with something original, writing mod or writing maps that people like and doing the hard work himself, he hires Ghoul, with his blood money, to take something successfu. From what I hear this is going to be "vanilla with performance optimizations". WHICH WONT WORK. You can focus on vanilla, you can focus on optimizations all you want, so players run it better. But you fail to realize that balance is far more important.

so why do we need a "private fork"? Seems like Abent has been doing a S^&T ton of work... What is the difference?

Hey I saw you deleted my comments, so I'll say them again. I'm no longer collaberating with you. And as long as you host this, I'm giving you everything you want. I won't support any of the mods or maps any longer. Instead, since you feel so strongly about making this mod and stabbing me in the back, i'll let you have all the responsiblitty, I'll let you get everything you wish. Because who needs the guy who has done this for 9 months straight, day and night, right?