man I'm looking forward to that remastered version

Could you put up a description that actually tells us what the mod does beyond just being PDS? I'm not familiar with it.

is this mod have new website？

https://www.pds.homeworldaccess.net/downloads/ex_ffront/v11/ heres a link to the mod v11b8full.zip is the full one at 140+mb (the one posted here looks to be the basic verion at 70+mb) then you would also or might need the v11b5update.zip 5+mb in case anyone wants the original files dont know if these need to be updated for the workshop or work as a mod (havent tested them personally) but they should...

well all in all it´s what the name implies... it add´s real PDS ( Point defense systems) to any and all ships... it increases the rate of fire for many weapons and also the speed of movement for most (turn and trust) so yeah...

it´s to much to wright so... best look for some videos on YT or so :P

I got one question that is hard to answer and that this mod should answer now that both their sites are FUBAR.
And that is... "What is PDS?"
"Why do I want PDS in my Homeworld install"

Because currently it just seems to be a legendary mod but no description as to what it changed / added exists anymore.

Is this version of PDS the newest or is Point Defense Systems v7.3.2 the newest version, I really cant tell

By running the original version of the game, not steam version, and using the version of the mod for it. Maybe they'll fix the bugs eventually, but for now, that's how I do it.

how do you get this to start up, always crashes

Wow, I'd almost forgotten about PDS, that mod kept me playing HW2 and active on the old relic forums for years. I even did some voice acting for it back in the 5.x days.....good times, good times.

@Jerkakame: Yes, each version has substantially different gameplay and units. Think of it more as an arms race progression and change in style for each.

why are there 3 versions uploaded? any reason to play a older version?

Always crashes on start up on a basic skirmish, no idea why, please help.

does this version still work?

Will this everbe remasted?

My game keeps crashing when I try to load up Homeworld 2 with the mod

Tolaburke, so sorry for the delay. PDS went through several stages of writing, mechanics and styles. I love every single number version that we ever produced, but there are favorites. 6.x is one of them, 7x is another, and presumably 11.x is another. I left the team some time after 7.x.

Why can't I play as the Imperial Taidanii in Vs. CPU mode?

update, my bad, forgot to add -nopbuffer, now plays great. Sorry, really my bad))

We have three seperate versions of the same mod. May I be the first to ask; what's going on here?

Hi GUTS - I've been linking a few people to your posting of v11B8 from the GBX and PDS forums. So glad to see that you had built a version of PDS for the re-release of Homeworld! Stay tuned and hope to see you involved as we develop the remastered version (come on over to the forums if you have time!)

@people having issues with HW2C
me and my freind of varying shitty and good computers can run it so i highly doubt its that.
- the default resolution is fucking shit so i reccomend plugging in or using a different monitor till you can change the resolution (or change it in the files)
- the game 'black screens' on startup for some, tab out and back in after you igve it a small amount of time to 'load' and it tends to work
- always launch it wihtought mods first
- if all else fails make sure you dont need to redownload it
- google it (if your using IE/bing your doing it wrong)

@George Mallory What on earth are you babbling about? I've never had any issue with HW2 and I've been an AMD customer for years.

not working at all, crash every time when any game mode selected... 2 bad...

oh god yes, my favorite homeworld mod of alltime. I simly can't wait for the remastered version.

Good to see PDS break orbit. Had fun working it. Think there might be a PDS 7.X version in the works soon.

@Oryngton
If you aren't using 2nd gen i7 processors, no, Homeworld 2 classic does *not* like win 7. Homeworld 2 was originally built for Pentuim 4 processors. For some reason, not many CPU's can run like a Pentium 4, but 2nd gen i7's can. Before Homeworld 2 was remastered, if you didn't have Pentium 4's about 30 mins into the game it would start running slower than molasses in winter -saving took upwards of 3 minutes.

I am guessing that Gearbox re-did some of the classic HW2 engine to help with this problem, but as a side effect, it might not be as stable or as extensible and one of the files or resources PDS counts on is no either longer there or changed.

This means you might need work-arounds to achieve stability. When in doubt, consult the internet. I'd start with "Homeworld Remastered PDS Crash" (without the quotes because the quotes will get most search engines to look for that exact phrase -which can be very helpful).

@Oryngton, it would help to check your HW2.log located in Homeworld2Classic bin release folder. if it says something like violation in atilogxx or something, you need to download a patch.

@SoulTechnology
No, PDS is basically macross without the spess robots and a LOT more point defence. It has so many more ship variants (typical of war times, vehicles getting repurposed for x and y jobs). The game is a lot more chaotic in terms of what's flying around, but not to the point where you can't figure out what's what (if you use the tactical map, that is).

And I still can't get this to work. The game crashes every time I try to run it. I think Win7 doesn't like HW2C.

Always wondered how the HELL you're supposed to finish the scenario missions... there's just too much oposition, pilling up wave after wave and battering you down to dust. Well, nothing's changed about this. And before you ask, I know how to handle the ships (IE getting them to use their CIWS to shoot down missiles).

sound slike battlestar galactica meets elite dangerouse in a space RTS mod... i like it... espeshally since i havent heard much on the progress of all the HW2 classic mods being rebuilt for hw remastered.

Well, wouldn't go so far as to say its my forum or anything. I'm just a fan of the old mod that wanted to put it up for other PDS fans to download. Sorry I don't have much more info.

As for what PDS does, it adds a lot of different units and redoes how the game really moves and feels. For example, you'll have cruisers that will, upon enemy detection, launch salvoes of nuclear missiles, many of which won't even hit because of the Point Defense Systems (hence hte name) meant to put up a wall of bullets to stop missiles from detonating on the ships. And so it comes down to fights where maneuvering, long range fighting, and epic lasers to win the day.

so browsed your forums a bit... and no 'what is PDS?' discussion. sad that i had to go to your forums to know what PDS stands for (although i guessed it, but i feel the mod has little to do with the title tbh)... mind be worht it for publicity to tell us WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT US TO DOWNLOAD!

more information plz ?

Can somebody explain what the mod does?

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Ahhhh maawww gaawddd <3

I've played around in the duel gamemode and also played a few scenarios and it seems like a pretty neat mod, but as others have said, it does crash when attempting to play a basic skirmish with more than 2 players. (yourself and an AI is fine, but say you add another AI, then it will crash.)

Thanks for this, always turned to this mod whenever I reinstalled this way back then.

@HeimdallW32 You want him to show you his birth certificate on here too? He's not making money from this, and we have access to one of the best MODs for HW ever put together. You should be thankful rather than some sort of "World's saddest citation checker for video games who wished they were an english teacher instead."

@GUTS The crash error's been a huge issue when loading up a MP game. If it works for a simple skirmish but not MP that should get looked into for the remastered version. Can you pass that word up the chain if you're still speaking to the old gang from the PDS forums?

It does result in crashes. I can't play the game because it crashes trying to load the "universe"

Did you ask the author if you could upload it here?

Immediately subscribed. Like... not even thinking twice about it. Godamn, think you can get this to work on the remastered version?

OMG

Launching basic skirmish hasn't resulted in any crashes as of yet.. Good to see some other PDS vets from back in the day. Check out the forums to get these guys some support and maybe we can see a better port on remastered.

As for the tactical-space sim level stuff, I agree that sometimes it seems too guided, but tbh, if you're in space and have epic levels of dakka, it makes sense in how current navys work to have precision guided munitions, and CWS systems to take down missiles as well... but now in spess

PDS was great before Complex came about. It's an easier balance between vanilla Homeworld 2 and other mods. I just found the mod to be too silly. What with the tracking of each bullet/missile to be a little.... too guided? If that's a thing to stay, it's almost dumb. Given that any decent ship commander wouldn't move in a straight line and might implement some evasive maneuvers.

I liked the PDS mod, I really did, but it felt like...someone was trying to pull the game into something faaar too sim-like into a game that was just the opposite. Not to mention the game engine can't really handle it either. :P

Also getting a crashing issue upon loading a game. Any follow up would be greatly appreciated!

Sick looking mod but crashes upon launching a match.

After trying to play a game, it crashed 2 times when it got about past 1/3 of the loading.