since they founded Spain and their blood runs in my vains I feel related to them and their pagan beliefs too

makes sense to me, give me a reason to abandon arinism eventually or stick with it playing as the Visigothics.

Thank you, that's great! :D

Cool cool. Thanks again for the shout-out, i'll also put that link in the description.

I just updated the StartPos AddOn for the Community Patch and included your change to the Visigoths. You're of course credited and linked to on my mod page. :)

Here's a link to the mod:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1539947175

That's great to hear! :D

I'll contact you again once the change has been implemented. :) It might take some time, though.

Hey, thanks for asking, I'd be quite happy to allow that.

Hi DeliciousCrackers,
I'm the curator of the Unofficial Attila Community Patch that is dedicated to fixing all the bugs that are left in the game. I'm thinking of changing the Visigoths' religion to Arian Christianity in the next release of the patch. Since you are the first person to have created such a fix I'd like to give you credit on my mod page. Would you give me permission to do so? :)

Here's a link to the patch:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1513074313

can you make a mod that makes the suebi arian christian? i know its ahistorical, but when i tried to do it to make myself like the other tribes it would never work

Hi, if you're using the Assembly Kit, what you need to do with TWeak is open the DAVE tool, view the table launcher, navigate to the start_pos_factions table, and make your changes under the 'state_religion' column, hit apply, and then export those changes to binary. When that's done you open the separate BOB application, and under working data tick the campaign you've changed under Working data, and select both 'Campaign/Process start pos' and create a pack file. If you need more help the first post in this thread covers the basics: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?642711-How-to-Change-Region-Ownership-and-Add-Remove-Armies-using-the-Assembly-Kit .

Hey,

thanks for the great work.
Could you possibly show me how to change the starting eligion for other factions as well?

Thanks in advance!

Just need to make an Insular (Celtic) Christaain for the Irish

That is very odd. I'm not really the best to ask about using PFM. I think Magnar would be able to give you some good pointers.

I did, but for some reason the startpos does not exist in my data. I had to copy another mod to access that. Feels weird since startpos also should exist in my own original data.

I don't have much experience with PFM, so I probably won't be able to help you out too much. I did a bit of research, and I'm assuming you changed the value of faction_religion_manager under the faction_array tab?

How can I change starting religion with ONLY PFM? I tried but ended up only changing the description of the factions when you choose the faction. But ingame the religion stays the same. More specific info please. And BOB makes my mods corrupted for some reason so I cant use that program.

its ok i have found it out, thx :)

but how exactly? with Pack File Manager?

To change it in the menu you have to mod the game files.

nice. btw how did u changed faction religion in menu? so far im able to change it in game

Worked like a charm, thanks.

It will not affect achievements, so feel free to browse through the workshop.

And JohnnyRebo601, in the game it's actually impossible to change religion as a horde faction. If you want to convert to Arianism your best bet is to take a short trip to Alexandria.

Hi, I'm new to this whole steam workshop thing and I had a question about your mod (or steam workshop mods in general), if it sounds stupid, I'm sorry I just don't know much about this stuff. Will installing this mess up with the achievements? I want to play as historically as possible, but I also don't want to disable achivements in the process.

well damn haha is it possible to change your religion when your a Horde?
if so how can I speed up that process?

Ah, that would be it. Both mods change the start_pos file, which basically determines campaign starts and when chapter events happen (e.g. the Hun invasion). Sadly because of that you can't use both at the same time

It appears that it doesn't work with my 12 tpy mod.
Any clue why a turn per year change would affect a start Religion mod?

Best answer I can come up with is to verify the game files in Steam. If it doesn't work you may need to delete the mod and have it redownload in mod manager.

I subscribed, yet it has changed nothing. any idea why? I even turned off all of my other mods, started a new campaign. Still nothing.

Thanks - I was able to change the Garamantians to Judaism without using BOB, but I'll give that a shot. Thanks again!

It's a two-stage process. First you just have to change their religion under the start_pos_factions table. Then, when you're using BOB, you select 'campaigns' under the 'Working Data' list, select the main campaign, then select startpos_esf. Make sure to create the start pos and mod pack, and after BOB does its thing it should work.

Trying to make the Visigoth starting religion Manichaeism (roleplaying reasons), and having difficulty doing so. Any advice? I think I'm changing the right tables...

Thank You I was wondering why they made Alaric a Pagan...It was his faith that stayed his hand in the sacking of Rome.

I had a quick look and it works fine on my end. Are you using any other startpos mods?

Not working on me anymore. Visigoths are still germanic paganism in game save and grand campaign faction selection menu.

nice fix...thanks :)

Update is out!

Latest patch has Samatian paganism included! Might b eworth it for teh alans :)

According to the special's edition's map.Visigoths are considered to accept Arianism :D.

That's more Persian. From what I've read the Alans worshipped a sword planted in the ground, but I can't find much outside of that.

Manicheïsm?

It seems like Sarmatian paganism would be the best pick, though that would necessitate creating a whole new religion ingame. I could look into doing it eventually.

@Crackers - What religion would make more sense for the Alans then? And can you put that in a mod?

While that is true, that happened over a decade before the game's starting date, and every king after Athanaric were Arian (until 589). As I said before, the game doesn't simulate non-leadership religion for horde factions, and seeing Alaric as pagan riled me up.

Athanaric began a persecution of christians just when Alaric was young, Sabbas the Goth is a nice point of view of that generation. A lot of pagans converted, still, the goths offered resistence to conversion some years more than other pagans in this years.

Alaric was definitely a practising Arian Christian, although he did engage in occasional pagan practices/rituals. The Visigothic leadership had been Christianised since at least the mid 4th-century, and it's not unreasonable to believe the rest of the tribe had also converted. Lastly, the game doesn't simulate non-leadership religion for horde factions, so I feel it's more appropriate for the faction to be Arian. It certainly makes more sense than the Alans being Arian.

I'm not really sure about that historically, I think Alaric I, first Visigoth king, was pagan until death (buried as it at least), and Theodoric I is considered the first catholic king of all germanic kingdoms. Between Alaric and Theodoric, were 3 other kings. Even if Ataulf got baptized, his people still were pagans. Anyway I preffer pagans than christians, but usefull mod if you pretend to stay Arian xD

Can someone give them the inheritors of rome trait to them

Nice !

Etruscan, the Roman Empire was definitely not following the Hellenic beliefs at the time that Attila takes place.

Why not roman hellenic? lol