After some investigating, the issue where all your mods get reset on every load (causing constant perk refunds) seems to be due to some combination of too heavy mods and/or too long playtime, but specifically the former. Something about large (quest) mods consuming too much of a handle resource and it eventually building up.

Check the mod Growl from same author. He got that covered already. Also Sacrosanct for Vampires and Vampire Lords

This mod is incredibly good. My only gripe with it is that it doesn't effect the werewolf perk tree, but I don't reckon that'll be too big a problem with this amazing overhaul. Good job.

I have not used this mod yet, but I have installed "Apocalypse - magic of Skyrim" recently and after restarting the game, all spells were resetted. After a research I had read that certain mods, which affect spells themself could cause that. At this time I had "Spells Give Off Light" active. And I notived that this mod may conflict with the apocalypse mod because my spells were not causing lights anymore. So I moved the SPells Give Off Light down to the bottom of the mods and all mods, which add new spells or change skill trees up to the top, so that these get loaded before everything else. And since that my spells are not resetted anymore after restarting. So I would recommend to try this with this Ordinator mod here.

Perks reset after quick loads even when this is the only mod installed and it's at the bottom of the load order.

i aint doin shit but blocking your mod. fuck yourself

Nah. Someone in the Apocalypse thread says moving it to the bottom of the load order fixes the issue. You go do that.

bro your mod clearly DOES NOT WORK IN LE ANYMORE. remove it.

Mods reinitialising after each quickloads? Because the perk reset happens after each quickload

I didn't say you reinstalled your mods, I said the game will reset them and throw away your progress.

The fact that this started happening in the last year or so with no updates to either the game or Ordinator (and only happens to a small subset of players) proves that it is not an Ordinator issue and suggests that some newly released mod is causing this.

The problem is that people either don't read anything I say or intentionally ignore it like the moron below, and of course nobody posts their load order so the common mod cannot be identified. Too bad.

Mods can't be reinstalled after quickloads, in the middle of a game

Let me copy paste my previous reply which you did not read:

"This bug is not caused by Ordinator. This bug happens when, for a currently unknown reason, the game starts reinitialising all your installed mods every time you launch the game. Might be a game bug, mods loaded in the wrong order so the game tries to fix it, or some other reason.

This affects ALL your mods, so any mod added quests break, ref aliases are blanked, etc. You just don't notice these things until after Ordinator gets restarted, so it becomes an "Ordinator bug".

So far SSE does not seem to have this issue, only LE does, clearly suggesting it is a bug with LE or the way it handles mods.

I told you this a few lines down."

hey fam your mod doesnt work. no I aint reading no bullshit discussion. fix the mod. or remove it from the workshop homie.

READ THE DISCUSSION YOU ARE REPLYING TO YOU LAZY ZOOMER

I wish I could enjoy this mod but everytime I reload my save it starts refunding all my perks.

unplayable.

@arnun_No.8 which mod organizer are you talking about?

Perk refund bug also happens after each quickload. During the game itslef. Not after launching it

Does anyone else has such problem?

i keep losing my perk points im lvl 5 with no points to use or installed in any perks

Use mod organizer can fix perk refund bug

Yo Enai, do you know how data about the perks tree is stored? If it was within some .txt we could just manually copy the file and after loading save, fill the txt with saved content

> Is there a fix for the perk reset problem? I looked for a patch but could not find one. How do we fix the problem? Having my perks reset every load is game breaking imo.

READ THE POST I MADE JUST BELOW YOURS FOR GODS SAKE

"Teddie" the only compatibility patch "next to" ordinator is the patch for the Apocalypse Magic mod. It crashes if you don't have Apocalypse. I am using a different magic mod, so I don't want to use Apocalypse. Any other ideas?

Is there a fix for the perk reset problem? I looked for a patch but could not find one. How do we fix the problem? Having my perks reset every load is game breaking imo.

This bug is not caused by Ordinator. This bug happens when, for a currently unknown reason, the game starts reinitialising all your installed mods every time you launch the game. Might be a game bug, mods loaded in the wrong order so the game tries to fix it, or some other reason.

This affects ALL your mods, so any mod added quests break, ref aliases are blanked, etc. You just don't notice these things until after Ordinator gets restarted, so it becomes an "Ordinator bug".

So far SSE does not seem to have this issue, only LE does, clearly suggesting it is a bug with LE or the way it handles mods.

I told you this a few lines down.

Currently having the perk refund bug and it deletes perk points when it's done refunding for me. Has ruined a new playthrough that i haven't had to load until level 5. Deletes all my perk points except 1 on the refund

For those that have the Perk reset bug the compatibility patch fixed it for me. Search ordinator and its the one next to it in the workshop!

I literally replied just before your post. Eyeroll.

Since I'm seeing a lot of similar comments I'm going to assume this mod is just broken atm.

"Ordinator perk reset in progress" happens every time I load a save, what is going on.

Loaded a save and all my perks got reset, but now I have no perks and all my perk points are gone so I just can't get any perks???

There's a game bug that when it triggers causes your mods to get reset every time you reload the game.

Good afternoon,I have a question, is the perk supposed to refund each time I load my game or when I die? So I started a new game and I got to level 12, spend the perks in the alchemy tree, I saved and when I loaded back in it refunded 6 perks but not the others. Then i decided it was a bug so i loaded it again and it refunded 3, but each time it refunds it removes all perks i have spent and then i lose them. Is there a way to fix this?

Was there ever a mod/patch for this that increases the Twin Enchantments perk so that you can put even more enchantments on one item? I know there is for the special edition, but currently trying to find one for this version.

muy bueno, pero hay traduccion?

The perk was added to the most recent version of Ordinator. Updating Workshop mods is problematic if you ever switch computers, and because Oldrim is dead there are more important matters than struggling to update a mod that is 90% downloaded for Anniversary Edition instead and even for Oldrim is more commonly downloaded on the Nexus than the Workshop, all for one perk. :)

Hey Enai? I just wanted to note a lack of something in Ordinator that's worth bringing up.

So I had a playthrough with Sacrosanct and mainly using blood magic as my main source of power. There was no buffs in destruction and whatnot for it, so I basically kinda skirted along with vampire perks and Robes of the Magi alone.

But the file accidentally got deleted and I decided to perk calculate up a new character. I looked in the destruction tree and I noticed a perk I haven't seen before: Raw Power - Increases non-fire/frost/lightning spells by 10-30%.

I double checked with a new character to see if it's in the destruction perk tree, but it's not. I then unsubscribed and had the files taken off, then used Vortex to get the Nexus version instead. When I checked again, the Nexus version uploaded the Raw Power Perk.

I hope it doesn't sound bad, just noting in case that should be added in or if Ordinator here needs to be checked on that tidbit. I hope you're having a good day.

i got myself a perk called Performer, how do i use it ?

I want to stop using this, I have unsub but it still runs. any help?

bro half of my playthrough is with this mod thank you for the mod! btw are you updating for legendary edition?

This is ALWAYS the first mod I start a new run through with. I'm ruined, i can't NOT play with this, it adds so much more content.

I am still updating, but primarily on SE. Most people have moved on to Special Edition by now. :/

Are you still updating? If so, I love you. If not, I love you.

Respec.

I accidentally left the advanced alchemy lab in the Falkreath Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary and now I can't undo it since the questline is finished. Is there any way to fix it?

They don't die unless you kill them yourself.

Super great Mod, only issue I have is that the Skeletons you make at the Bone Altar are in fact, utter garbage haha Says that they 'dont die' but watching one get vaporized infront of you makes all the Skeleton Perks worthless

People frequently report the fact that they got unlucky as a bug.

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If you take the "game of fate" perk from the lockpicking tree,will the "dragons of fate" have a random small chance to appear in every chest you come accros similar to meridia's beacon or will they immediately spawn in random chests? because I fear that they might spawn in chests that I have already opened and thus will never come accros again.