@Protype @RedSilencer Thank you for the answer! I was refering about glitches and ninja reflexes indeed. It's harder when you have to consider these things way outside the box (not logic, but coordination skills and such).

I played a good portion of hard maps here. I don't think these maps get the recognition they deserve.

And if you get totally stumped... there's always a walkthrough video above! (There should always be a walkthrough!)

@FLAVIO678 I second Prototype here! I helped play-test this puzzle, almost 8 years ago by the original designer (<3 toncica). I don't remember the solution entirely and I can bluntly say that this map is not without its flaws, but it's a damn good puzzle on the workshop and deserves more attention than it reached. In my opinion, this is seriously one of the best "hard" puzzles on the workshop. You don't need to search for tricky, hidden items, nor do you need to explore outside the natural bounds of the level, nor do you need any high-skill maneuvers or special knowledge about glitches, etc. It's one of the best logical puzzles I can remember and can be solved through a careful, charitable interpretation of allowances and deduction. Good luck to you, and anybody else that stumbles on this great map!

@FLAVIO678, I'm not too sure how to answer that, I guess some steps could be considered "clever tricks" but I think it mostly depends on your previous experience. I think it is solvable with logic but you have to think a bit outside the box. No glitches or ninja reflexes are required.

Is there any clever trick or just pure logic?

Yeah, beyond my mental capabilities..... nicely said bullfrog, I was thinking in the same direction, but I will give it a few tries.....
joe98 and D YellowMadness: you can escape from that place (in a normal Portal2 way)

Got stuck in a room at the top of a funnel

Thanks for playing!

Excellent puzzle. I favorited this over a year ago but I think I originally solved it with help from the solution video, meaning I now had basically no recollection of the solution. Resolving it today was an incredible experience; I love how the player interacts with the layered funnel setup and all the sneaky moves to go between sequences. And the layout lends itself very well to being in this open setting, I think it looks great. Definitely one of the best puzzles I've played all year :)

Wow, what a puzzle! I love it! I spent an embarrassingly long time without figuring out that you can grab the cube off of the button through the fizzler without passing through it and had to look at the solution video to get it.

I couldn't figure out the 1st level, but this is incredible.

@D YellowMadness, it's not as obvious as I'd like but you're not trapped. https://youtu.be/4dJPZrTEMUQ

If you ride the funnel all the way up instead of getting out at 0:59, you're trapped. No way to drop down because the funnel is in the way & no way to portal out because there's a fizzler in the funnel.

Really cool map. It seems I found @suanpan's ending: https://youtu.be/R0IxA6A7ibI

Unfortunately, https://youtu.be/as4NOdEua0Y

Great puzzle, but beyond my mental capability.

这是一个非常高难度的地图。。。

I'm surprised I haven't commented on this map before since I solved it a while ago. I enjoyed it very much. Nice challenge and beautiful design. I solved some parts very slightly differently than the walkthrough video but not in a way that breaks the map at all. Thumbs up and favorited.

Only complaint is, I don't like the really small gap you have to shoot through, in order to bring the funnel back to the starting area

Solved! :D

scary map look forward to solving

Waouhhhh ! A little too hard for me ! Chapeau bas !

oh,yes,I didn't think of it at that time.

You could have moved your other portal to aim the laser directly at the receiver instead of guessing... right? I think that's possible. It would cut the risk of missing the receiver.

I am sorry,this is the right link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9HtYsCIK5o

Wrong link brochacho

ok.this is the most important part of my solution: https://www.youtube.com/upload
I'm just demonstrating this possibility,but it need a lot of time to debug.

@suanpan, I didn't think that was possible, could you please record a demo or video showing how you managed to get the cubes in that position?

My another solution: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=726966090
This way need the skill of anticipation the laser,and it can skip some steps.Very cool map,enloy it very much,thanks for your work.

My point now is: If those things i did was unintended, how can i see the real solution, coz i think what i did is much harder so blame me for not finding the easy way, that doesn't make me a moron, i just couldn't think of anything else and i haven't watched the solution yet, i wanna solve this, the first room was clever and you don't have to to fix the walkway, noone would do that!!! I suggest one thing... make a clear way to make the player not to feel trap, as stupid as i will sound, i think if i jump on the faith plate right way, i see no way to solve it anymore, there are fizzlers and no white wall on the other side WHEN the game name's Portal!!!!

I have watched your demo. I do agree that you were trapped at one point, when you used the cube to jump over the walkway railing at the start. That could be fixed with invisible walls along the railing or triggers above the beams you jumped down onto. What would you suggest?
Nothing else in your demo appears to demonstrate a problem.

Watched it all and I can confirm you didn't solve it. Not sure what you were trying to do except having fun with noclip, there wasn't a problem with the map from what I can see. When you were at the funnel above the grating pretending to be trapped you could easily get out of there, but you noclipped again. It doesn't matter what you do with the funnel from the first room, it doesn't break the puzzle or the map.

i was fooling around so watch it all and pay attention, i didn't solve it though!!!!

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=22044826018729344431

@RedSilencer lol keep eating your popcorn while we discuss this "very important topic"!

@christian_saw, could you please upload it to a site where I can download it such as the one toncica suggested. If I can access the file I will watch it.

http://i.imgur.com/DKJhx9l.gif

Use a service that doesn't require registration. For example: http://www.tinyupload.com/

i think this is the link but you're gonna have to use one social media account to log in REMOVE THE SPACE before" COM/"
http://www.4shared . com/account/home.jsp#dir=irMFxWVN

@toncica i've just recorded a .dem filem, i'll upload somewhere ok???

You said you were trapped when you presented the screenshots. I have to say I'm not getting what you are trying to do. If the reflective cube gets into the funnel from the first room then it will be destroyed by the fizzler there and respawn, so that shouldn't concern you. It looks like you are trying to prove a point by getting into a position that is only possible by using noclip. A video would really help.

@Prototype, i'll record all my attempts, coz people are not getting what i'm saying, will you please watch the video? Notice, everythime i noclip is the same as quick loading, i hate cheating, but i hate wasting my time to do something almost impossible at first attempt!!!

@toncica your comments were so stupid!!! Of course i could move back from the last 2 screenshots to the first screenshot position, my point is I USED THE FIRST ROOM FUNNEL TO MAKE THE UPPER REFLECTION CUBE TO FALL IN MY HANDS!!!

im not ONLY talking about getting trapped anymore, i don't know thesolution and look how could i solve it!!! My techniques are impossible and i need to constantly quick load to succeed but i hate that coz i wanted to KNOW what the right solution is!!

i can make the reflection cube fall in the first room and with the door closed, I'M TRAPPED!!!! Unless something respawns the cube but i haven't seen anything just like in the first room, now look WHAT HAVE I MAGICALLY DONE!!! https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564072161

In your screenshots you are not trapped. In the first picture you can walk to the faith plate to move on, in the other two you are behind the wall and you could walk back to the position from the first screenshot.

"your maps" i mean, other people maps, i know you're not the author but he'll read it too!!

@toncica now i'm gonna send screenshots, because your maps are famous i don't give a fuck if they work or not, in my way, this one doesn't!!! I CAN GET TRAPPED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS deppending what the game does, sometimes it gets crazy, like you'll see on the next screenshots... https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564062922 and this is how i've done https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564064988 and this was the result by being a quick motherf**** https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564065142

@christian_saw, I just assumed you were drunk when you played the map and wrote the comment in the hope you would act like an intelligent person later on. Please accept my apology.

@Prototype, i'll take a closer look, maybe i said that without thinking, let me see and then i post it here. But i was indeed trapped. i just never said i didn't restart and try again!!!!

@toncica why do you say "when i get sober"? i feel sorry for you, those kind of arguments means nothing for me, get a life moron, who are you to assume i was drunk while playing it, you're on the other side of the world, bastard!! i'm sure i was trapped but that's for the author to ask for a video which i have done.