can anyone tell me if it is broken. i am not seeing a "its is broken" so i am assuming it still works?

just thank you now i get to burn my aircraft 24/7 when i try to fly with them

Thanks for the info - yes please don't remove it until it actually breaks - I kind of like yours better for actual balance etc. You did great - I enjoyed having to add segments of wing material under the front to make some things fly. It felt like earning it.

FYI. I intend to leave the mod in its current state until a SE change breaks it.

You will need to rebuild your wings. That, should be all you need to do if you use those mods. Honestly handling flight mechanics will probably be easier with them.

I have so many things that use this mod - does the replacement you suggest make conversion easy or am I screwed?

Is this mod interfere with the npc spawn mods like EEM or MES? Can it make the npc ships randomly lose control?

Hi sirius, I had the same issue and I seem to be able to solve it by removing a random block from the grid that's acting weird, then replacing it. It seems to be an issue when the game loads/when you spawn a grid with wings. Just delete/grind off any random bit and put it back, I think the mod re-calculates the amount of lift it needs (so it doesn't flutter like a leaf and land backwards and upside down (or struggle into the air and then want to fly down and upside down). It was driving me crazy for a few days, as i couldnt work out why my planes seemed to flip out at random (I'm using digis wing mod and planetary dynamics together, and my planes have suspension wheels on them. Grinding and welding a block to update the grid seems to work reliably, at least for me.

Hope this helps :)

I am having a few issues. I designed an aircraft that works really well half the time, then the other half of the time when i try to take off or just fly it flips and rolls like my gyros are on override. I originally used this mod for my plane. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=473571246 . But when i had the flipping issues i switched to using the wings from this mod. Either one causes me the same issues. I am tired of having to go back to previous saves to save my plane. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

is it possible to achieve drag without using the wing blocks?

Looking for a way to replicate that first fighter on the first picture - I don't see any wings on it. Is there a place I can download this blueprint from?

is this compatible with digis wings?
by this i mean do they worlk well with thiss mod as i did not find annything in the description of eter of the 2 mods that tells me this

cool. looking forward to it

Currently no. I did just think of a way to implement that. I wont have time to get to it soon, but may be able to find some time in the next couple of weeks.

this is an awesome mod, but I have sub grids inside my ship that are breaking during re-entry, is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thank you, that's very helpful. I'd use your mod with a dedicated speed mod (~400 m/s) because that's more sensible on a DS.

My mod is an all encompassing pre-balanced mod. With a 1km/s speed mod, and wings.
It may not be best as a dedicated server mod as it does have a 1km/s speed limit.

Draygos will provide you more customization options.

Hey @Dondelium, I'm currently trying to decide which drag mod to use on my server. Can you tell me what's the difference between your mod and that of Dragyo Korvan (this one: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=571920453)?

Apart from the wings included in your mod of course.

@Mechjeb How large of a ship are you using when experiencing lag, how fast are you moving, and what other mods are being used?

I ask because a fast moving large ship 2000+ parts will cause lag. This is because the massive amount of changes that occur during reentry. The heaviest calculation being: Blocks being destroyed, which causes updates for the whole grid in space engineers itself.

This can be avoided by using less blocks, or by slowing down before entering the atmosphere.

Some other mods cause exponentially more updates than would be done normally, which can cause slowdown.

Sadly there is no good way to reduce these issues otherwise.

Now, if none of these issues are present, then there is definetly an issue which needs to be resolved, and I will need to be able to recreate the scenario you are experiencing to pin point the problem.

This mod Seems to be causing severe lag when ships enter the atmosphere

Perhaps you could see if you could get permission to use them. Or at the very least, be inspired.

Here's some links:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=335780603&searchtext=wing+blocks

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574390993&searchtext=wings

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=571958280&searchtext=wings

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=861253547&searchtext=wings

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=590273941&searchtext=wings

This looks like an awesome all-in-one mod for realistic atmosphereic flight, the only thing is you're severely limited by the parts. There are other wing block mods out there, maybe see if you can "borrow" or use some of those models and apply your lift dynamic to them.

Standalone wings mod is a goner? :(

I ran a mission to the moon on a survival world where I re-entered a small ship at about 800 ms. I used parachutes and a heatshield on one face of my return vehicle to get it safely to the surface.

The travel module on the other hand desentigrated within a few seconds of entering the atmosphere. So I know this system works.

Each block has its own heat/damage profile. This means a solar panel/connector will rip off with ease, and heavy armor will take much more.

Heat doesnt spread of the entire craft evenly either. Heat is only applied to the blocks at the foremost position for the faces directly recieving drag.

This means that with proper driving you could attach (Using merge blocks) a heavy armor heat shield on one face, and keep your ship carefully pointing that heat shield in the direction of travel until your parachutes/thrusters/drag can slow you down enough the heat isnt a danger, and then jettison the heatshield to reduce weight.

Another option is to not enter the atmosphere over 500ms. This is usually enough to keep most of your ship intact. (Light armor shouldnt even take damage)

but i do have one question, that being do they take the damage till they run out or simpily dampen the damage delt

Would but im more doing it to survive a crash landing of a mothership and dampen any small portions of damage so i dont need to repair as many of my ships parts are very hard to reach

Your honestly better off using heavy armor as a heatshield.
This is because heavy armor takes more heat to take damage, and takes it at a reduced rate.

Yes, but it wont stop much.

so theoreticly you could prevent a small portion of damage to help say an escape pod with rentry

Shields do prevent some damage, but are not natively scripted into the system.
This means that with the massive amount of damage that is applied via re-entry the shields do not tend to last long. (I use the energy shield mod too, they dont do alot of good)

do shields help prevent this (from cythons mod?)

This mod is still functional, and now that speed mods are fixed, PD is good again.

Speed mods are fixed, so hopefully all the physics mods can be updated and work again

has the speed issue been fixed for this one?

@TheGamingAssassin With mods it is possible to do an unlimited speed. However, a recent "major" patch they did to improve physics calculations resulted in the capability of doing that mod broken. Now, small ships are only capable of flying up to 200 m/s without going crazy, and large ships can only hit appx 850 (from what I've tested)

the max speed in SE is only 100 m/s

Is the 250 m/s glitch still a problem? Is it possible that we dumb down the speed limits and cap speed at, say 235 and adjust the lift mod to compensate?

Mod error fixed. Looks like the 250m/s issue is still occuring.

2017-08-30 15:55:24.502 - Thread: 1 -> MOD_ERROR: [Dev/Stable] Planetary Dynamics - Re-Entry Heat, Drag, and Wings.
2017-08-30 15:55:24.502 - Thread: 1 -> in file:
2017-08-30 15:55:24.502 - Thread: 1 -> Compilation of C:\Users\atg\AppData\Roaming\SpaceEngineers\Mods\565427330.sbm_PlanetDymanics failed:
2017-08-30 15:55:24.503 - Thread: 1 -> MOD_ERROR: [Dev/Stable] Planetary Dynamics - Re-Entry Heat, Drag, and Wings.
2017-08-30 15:55:24.503 - Thread: 1 -> in file:
2017-08-30 15:55:24.503 - Thread: 1 -> C:\Users\atg\AppData\Local\Temp\SpaceEngineers\565427330.sbm_PlanetDymanics\HotBlock.cs(88,22): Error: There is no argument given that corresponds to the required formal parameter 'validateOwnership' of 'MyCubeGrid.ColorBlocks(Vector3I, Vector3I, Vector3, bool, bool)'
2017-08-30 15:55:24.503 - Thread: 1 -> MOD_ERROR: [Dev/Stable] Planetary Dynamics - Re-Entry Heat, Drag, and Wings.

It was providing lift yesterday but today it's not doing anything, my plane just falls straight down and, usually, through the ground. Relatively new map, created for building planes. =\

i've had the same issue til i figured out a solution i slowly gather speed up to 250m/s for planets and managed to keep myself stable if i dont move to much tho turning to fast causes the planes to jerk a bit my only guess is the physics involved with atmospheric reentry it feels more realistic than a game problem so idk but i do agree that it could be a bit annoying x.x

Hi, will you add Drag on Engineer ?

Yeah space engineers 180 totally broke speed mods. there's posts all over the forums about ships twitching and going completely out of control at about 250 m/s, even when only a simple speed mod is installed.

I still don't have an answer.. No matter where I look, I can't get any info on it. DO your ships glitch around when flying >150 m/s? >300? If not... Fuck idk what could be wrong. Please help D:..It makes the game unplayable for me.

So without any speed modding (i.e. speed capped at 100m/s) heating will not be applied?

Question: could it be the speed mod code that you have built into this mod? Someone elsewhere on the workshop claims that it is the way pre-patch speed mods were coded.

Okay, perfect. Thanks for the check, dondelium!

Ok, so I just went to check the re-entry. I was unable to get fast enough because around 250 meters a second and then the vessel starts jerking around randomly.

This seems to be space engineers itself as I added a few markers to show when my mod is actively applying forces.

While in space the jerking continues, but my mod is not applying any forces at that time. So it seems to be yesterdays update and not planetary dynamics.

Evening Redhead. What exactly seems to be broken? I just went for a joy ride in an aircraft of mine and it seems to be working properly. I havent tested the re-entry heating yet.