Cooperton, that didnt work out. However, thuumking merged this class with summonmerge and shades of war. I asked him to brutha. He did a great job! And he credited you😀

@steffire3 absolutely, just credit me where appropriate

@ Cooperton (author): Do we have your permission to merge this Class and it's extension mods into a mod pack with other mod Classes?
Thanks for your time!

I don't believe it does, though I didn't author that mod. I just mushed it together into a compilation.

Does the spider in spider pact actually attack? Dosent look like it, then it does. Hmm. Do you use heal bot and spider pact at the same time?

Oh man, played him in synergies and it went fine!! Now playing him in tl2-e-full conversion and its great there too!! I do play on normal. Maybe i oughta put on my big boy pants and move up a level. Lol

I haven't written a build guide. When I played it, I mostly just took all the summons and rapid fired everything to death. :) That said, I know lots of people like to use the more crowd control aspects of the class rather than the pure shooting skills (which is why I included them).

Thank you for all the praise, I'm not a great modder, and this was a lot of work. It makes me happy that people enjoy it so much.

If you would like to put together a build guide for it, I'll make a discussion section for it.

Great mod. I was so glad to come across it because of the lack of summoner type classes. Is There a build guide? I tend to not know what stats to drive up lol. Playing your summoner through Torchfun ultamate right now. Doing great. (no, you dont need torchfun 1 and 2 if you just get ultimate). Class is a lot of fun, not OP, and great skills You rock.

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@Cooperton (author): We have finally made our Skill Expansion mod and we have yet to include any of your mods however my time spent helping you here on the Summoner Class certainly helped me while working on expanding the original classes!

I thank you very much for this and have gladly posted the Link below:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=924025867&searchtext=

Thank you @Cooperton! I will gladly inform my mod partners of your decision.

We will gratefully keep you informed of the progress that we make.

Many mods are being made currently and it's only a matter of time before we focus on the original classes and their minion spells.

By all means Steffire. Please use my mods in any way you see fit. Just cite me as a source as appropriate.
I have been away from torchlight, and torchlight modding for some time, and definitely wont have time to help during this semester. But feel free to PM me links as you see fit and I'll take a look at what youre working on, as my time allows.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/discussions/18446744073709551615/133258593381658252/?appid=200710

@ Cooperton (author): I want to humbly thank you for greatly helping me in the past which has now led me to this content in the above link.

I hope you don't mind me linking back to your mods here for the sake of advancing Torchlight Original Classes with a potential mod enhancement from "doudley" and "Aherin".

I'm also asking for your permission to potentially use your mods or take inspiration from them.

If you would like us to; we could also (optionally) include you as a collaborator?

If you answer "No" to the question (of permission) then I will gladly enforce your decision and make sure the mod team I'm working with respects your mods by leaving them out of the equation.

I respect your work and your input! ^_^

@Cooperton [author]:
Thank you so much for your comment in the linked discussion.

I greatly appreciate it!

-^_^-

Could you write your opinion on an important question I have which I wrote on the page in the link below:

Is a Torchlight Character defined by Class or Skills?

This has to do with the way any and every mod class is built.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/200710/discussions/0/133255603285071449/

Thank you for your time. ^_^

Thx and I'll keep that in mind "if" I ever decide to start.

-^_^-

Customizing skills is a bit beyond my ability... even the wolf shade mod was quick and dirty. Sorry :(
But if you wanna work on it, I'll help anyway I can

@Mod-author Cooperton:

I have an idea for another class but it requires alot of customizing vanilla skill numbers and using some mobs and bosses for summons and wondered if that was too much to ask...

thx for considering. -^_^-

Thx for updating the description with full detail on skills and recommended merges! :)

I've never had that issue, but unless you're running another mod that makes the brute permanent, it only lasts a short time. I know remember how long, its been a long time since I've played vanilla. If you are running a mod that alters the duration, (like my summonmerge modpack) try fiddling with your load order. What mods are you running?

One issue my friend and i have been having, is when we summon the shadowling brute, it disappears after 10 to 15 seconds. It happens every time.

Cool!

good!

Once again, thanks to Steffire3, for doing some of my work for me.

The class should work fine in multiplayer. Of course, as with any torchlight 2 mods, all players involved have to have the same mods and the same mod order.

If you do experience any bugs, please report them in the bugs discussion.

@ Kotiya Sanae :

Speaking multiple languages is admirable.

As for skills being powerful- both Actives and Passives... fortunately all the skills used in this class are from the original classes unmodified- and would not be any more offensively powerful than vanilla classes.

The real power of this class is access to almost all of the original summons and some of the most useful defensive and movement-control skills... again all of these are from the vanilla classes.

In terms of balance: this class has more power than the original classes- yet still vulnerable... this class is better balanced for level 120 Elite bosses actually- who would otherwise rip anything to shreds- that is not a maxed Forcefielded Engineer with lots of damage-reduction socketables...

This class is very balanced if compared to a class like the 'Theolentist' or 'Otaku Fighter'.

@ Kotiya Sanae :

Online Gaming: Since this class uses skills from the original classes- it should ( Theoretically ) work in Multiplayer...

Just make sure all players involved are using the exact same mods- if crashes or load screens taking too long are encountered- try removing a mod or more and try again- if bugs still persist with current mods- inform the respective mod authors...

@ Kotiya Sanae : [my edits in brackets] :

Long Loads and Infinite Load screen Potential FIX
Basically if you experience a infinite load screen in multplayer. Login in again get a fish to
change your pet permanently then get another one to change him back [may require a mod]. Worked for me.
(Changed mine from D3 Treasure Goblin to the weasel and Back)
Also, Done more testing seems it maybe gear related I was able to fix another infinite load [screen] by unequiping gear and then loading [remove armor- leave it off- reload game].

Now this goes without saying but I guess I should say it. Mods edit the game and
may cause errors that cannot always be detected soon enough so backup your characters to be safe. [before you add any new mods to multiplayer- copy and paste mod-character save files].

Credit to Draco1122: I repasted this from his description 'Add-on for Additional Classes'. I hope it helps you.

sorry for my bad english :p

ok XD i know ur problem and Arguments now, well done then, but its important that the Active skill are not too strong, hmmm...and i want to ask if this class can be use in Online gaming or not :)

Agreed. Hypothetically you could have 10 skill summons, and 4 minion spells on you and your pet. Plus shadowlings if you wanna actually shoot anything. Even without shadowling ammo, you could spend almost all your time and mana casting summon abilities. Especially if you don't use mods that make summons mostly permanent.

I see his point... however Torchlight 2 is a wonderfully open game... the Summoner contains almost all the summons found in the original classes- and can be crucially supported by a wide range of options involving missile, defensive, and escape skills...

...and for those who want more summons- just randomly buy the skeleton 'warriors' and 'archers' and 'summon zombies' and 'nether imp' from spell vendors in Acts 3 and 4- and equip them to your spell tabs- for even more summons usable by the User or even the Pet / Companion.

Which makes the skill: 'Share the Wealth'- even more effective I'm guessing.

That said, I would check out a class that had undead, animals, and elementals to summon. If you create the class, let me know and I'll check it out :-)

I suppose one could make that argument. But it does have access to almost every vanilla summon skill. And with the skills set up as they are it would be completely possible to never attack. To just summon your minions and then use the defensive and mobility skills to stay safe while your minions do all the killing for you.
Personally, I'd rather have some attack skills to supplement my minion army, but the class could definitely be played either way.

And honestly, I just don't yet have the modding skills to create my own custom skills.

hmmm，but its Summoner，didnt it？i see the skills already, its more like a hmmmm.... Attacker?

The three trees are: gunslinger, summoning, and tactics. In the next few days the skills will be finalized and I'll post pictures of them.

3Skill-Trees:Droid, Necromancer, Elemancer(?)
u know, Animals, Undeads, and Elements

Started a discussion for skill tree suggestions

Ha, new version I made today replaces executioner with shotgonne mastery, I also concluded that executioner was pretty useless.

I also removed burning leap for forcefield.

I also removed dodge mastery for frozen fate.

Great minds, etc etc.

Im considering removing bane breath for something else.

I really like Rapid Fire, Chaos Shot and Shadowshot.

If there are any other skills that you think aren't useful to the class.. I'd be willing to discuss further changes.

And, once again, I'm looking for a new skill to replace bane breath. As it's pretty underwhelming... though it is, technically, a summoning skill.

thanks for the feedback. Feel free to add more if you'd like.

Please replace the passives: Akimbo and Executioner- unless these are wanted.

Consider that these only support a weapon package of 2 pistols... however do nothing for Bow- Xbow- Shotgun- or Shield+Pistol builds.

I know Focus Stat boosts dual pistols- but that execution is more suited to Berzerker types.

The ideal weapon sets I would run for myself at the same time with this class would be a Vitality heavy Shield-Pistol and switching to a Focus damage-over-time-embered Bow.

Everything found in the Summon Skill Tree is solid: nothing much to improve there.

Frost Phase or Burning leap- but not both- replace one with a utility or buff skill.

Death's Bounty may be underwhelming if Heal-Bot (passive health regen) and that mage elemental boost (one button every 10ish seconds with good mana regen) are being used.

Shadowshot and Chaos Burst are too similar unless you want diversity... otherwise replace one of them with another poison- fire- or utility skill...

Rapid-Fire is good- but faces competition with Magma Spear:

more DPS- more range- not limited to ranged weapons- and can proc damage-over-time embers inserted into weapons makes Magma Spear worth considering over Rapid-Fire which helps with shadowlings and knockback- however is far less useful if the backflip skill is used.

Here are some other skills to consider adding:

Blazing Pillar- Fire Storm- Elemental Attunement- Fire Brand- :

Fire skills are good support for this poison class- and Attunement helps greatly on bosses.

Ice Prison- Ice Shield- Battle Standard- Northern Rage- Glacier Shatter.

Ice skills are redundant on this immobilize and slow class- however if supported by the passives:

Shatter Storm and Frozen Fate- they would make an awesome support to Immobile Copter and outlander slow area skill.

Wooo !!! pictures mean more subscribers ;)

So I've looked through the three trees and assuming everything is vanilla- I have some ideas:

Also if you make a "discussions" section for this- I could re-post this stuff there.

Happy to help. If you don't like the skills, and have advice on how to improve them, please feel free to let me know.

good point- thx for that :)

While the trees are full, they are subject to change, I will post pictures of them when I've decided they're staying the same. Until then, i'd recommend just running the mod to look. It'll take a minimal amount of time, and if you dont like them you can always unsubscribe. No hard feelings :)

Could I see some pictures of the 3 trees?