Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

Zucklov's Cultural Diversity Lite
34 Comments
UnknownVariable 14 Dec, 2017 @ 1:11pm 
Also add Ossetian please
UnknownVariable 14 Dec, 2017 @ 12:59pm 
Update to 1.2.4?
Polish Guy 12 Jul, 2017 @ 4:52am 
Update pls !
Prawicowiec wolnorynkowy 10 Apr, 2017 @ 9:01am 
update please
Rex Arturius 3 Mar, 2017 @ 1:25am 
Savoie and Romandy were arpitan too
Martingale2910 22 Oct, 2016 @ 3:18am 
Third and last post.
Pomerelia wasn't part of the HRE and didn't have such strong economic ties with states in it, so germanisation wasn't as strong in the XII, XIII centuries as in eg. Silesia or polish Western/german Hinter (Back) Pomerania. When the Teutons took over, they already encountered a "developed" local feudal society (unlike the prussians, who were still functioning as tribes), so the Ostsiedlung on their part wasn't as intense.
Martingale2910 22 Oct, 2016 @ 3:18am 
Second post.
Prussia's original population had been slowly exterminated/assimilated since the Teutons took over (five prussian uprisings decimated martial and economic resistance) and over time the north coastal flat regions and the western Vistula bordering lands were dominated by germanic settlers (who dominated also most urban settlements too), the south-east was settled by refugees from Mazovia (they became the Mazurs later, the protestant poles of Prussia) and in the east there remained mainly indegenous baltic communities (who also motted the rest of Prussia, comprising at the beginning of the XV century some 50% of the total population).
Martingale2910 22 Oct, 2016 @ 3:18am 
Divided my post into three, coz its so damn long.
In Pomerelia (east Pomerania) germanisation hadn't proceeded as much - the very cities that were founded on Mageburg law were germanic, as the settlers were invited from modern day Germany (but so was the majority of Krakow, the capital of Poland, in the XIV century and pretty much each city east of the Elbe river that was founded on Magedburg rights). Ubranisation at that time was low in general, 10-20 percent lived in cities in Poland (in Prussia it was around 20-30), the rest of the population that was relatively indigenous lived in the countryside.
Komisarz Adam Zawada 25 May, 2016 @ 11:26am 
No, they weren't for much of the time frame. Especially Pomerelia. Also, arguing about putting additional cultures in cultural diversity mod makes no sense.
yox 24 May, 2016 @ 10:20am 
Prussia and Pomerania are german, also the wendish pop was very small
Komisarz Adam Zawada 24 May, 2016 @ 7:15am 
@Etzel No, I've checked my mod and we've already talked about that. Germanization of Danzig didn't start until Partitions of Poland.
user12343  [author] 21 May, 2016 @ 8:21am 
@Etzel, I'll pass this along to Zucklov
Itchel 20 May, 2016 @ 9:09am 
Shouldn't both danzig and koningsberg be prussian?
user12343  [author] 18 May, 2016 @ 10:09am 
Updated for 1.17.x.x
Chairman Meow (JP) 8 May, 2016 @ 7:27am 
Ok thanks
user12343  [author] 8 May, 2016 @ 3:31am 
@JP
That's great, I'm glad to hear it.
Basically you just want to mimic what you see in the Steam install. Your file structure should look like the games files.
Good luck, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with
Chairman Meow (JP) 8 May, 2016 @ 1:20am 
I've downloaded Notepad++ and also the map viewer. Thanks for your help and im going to have ago. One of my biggest problems before was how you set up the mod files, and the Wiki wasnt that helpful for it. Thanks
user12343  [author] 7 May, 2016 @ 1:39pm 
@JP
But you should download and use Notepad ++ for all of your coding, it's great and free
user12343  [author] 7 May, 2016 @ 1:37pm 
@JP
Give it a shot.
I'll take a look at your file when you upload if it isn't working and help.
user12343  [author] 7 May, 2016 @ 1:36pm 
@JP
Hmm I'm not sure about a guide
wiki [www.eu4wiki.com] has a section on modding cultures and culture groups, which you may have seen.
To change the province in an actual provinces you do this:
1. go to \Steam\SteamApps\common\Europa Universalis IV\history\provinces\
2. find the file with the province you want to change
3. copy the file into your mod's history\provinces\
(to get started with just unzip this mod, change the title and use the structure)
4. open the file in yoru mod's directory with Notepad ++
5. navigate to the entry 'culture = XXXX' where XXXX is the name of the culture
6. replace the XXX with the culture of your choice.
So if we take Uplland as an example, I could replace culture = swedish with culture = finnish.
7. save and you are done.
Chairman Meow (JP) 7 May, 2016 @ 8:55am 
@user12343 I understand some of the things you say, a thank you for considering them. I would have ago with making my own mod for this but previous attempts have not been successful. I think I'm going to have another attempts soon but if you could advise any specific software/guides to making a culture mod, I would love to have a look at it. Thanks again
user12343  [author] 7 May, 2016 @ 8:15am 
@JP
4. Similar vein, yes Maltese has linguistic influence from other languages derived from long periods of occupation, but I'm not sure that the Maltese would consider themselves culturally affiliated with Tunisia over the rest of Italy.

Moreover, I'd encourage you to make your own mod. This is not rocket science. You have to change one entry in each provence history file to change a culture. I'm available if you have questions. Thanks again for the feedback and good luck!
user12343  [author] 7 May, 2016 @ 8:14am 
@JP
Good thoughts, I think Zucklov has addressed in the main mod page
My take:
1. There is no reliable population data for the Ottoman empire during that period. It is impossible to say in what areas Armenians were a majority or not. Could be right, or not, but it is not something that I have data for. The best we have is 1900s Turkish data, which is imperfect.
2. Changes other than culture are not part of the LITE version
3. Yes, there is a linguistic link between Magyar and other Finno-Ugric languages. But is that really a cultural link? I think about it this way: If Hungary occupied Finland would the Finns feel like it was occupation by their cousins or by a foreign power. I'm thinking foreign power. Whatever the linguistic connect it doesn't really reach the level of cultural group connection.
Chairman Meow (JP) 7 May, 2016 @ 7:46am 
5. A small thing, but Hungarian could be part of the Finno-Ugric Cutural group to allow a little more connection for there culture as Hungarian (and kinda Bulgarian but that has a lot of Slavic influences, and Bolgars settled there way before the Magyars in Hungary) is developed mainly from the Magyars of central Russia.

6. Similar to Hungarian, Maltese has closer linguistic links to Tunisia and North Africa than Italy (other than religion).

All these comments are made of the images given, so if any of my interpretations are incorrect, please forgive my ignorence. I am also going to post these improvements to the original mod so it will both be similar.

Once again, thanks for updating the mod I am going to have so much fun XD XD
Chairman Meow (JP) 7 May, 2016 @ 7:46am 
4. If it is still part of the lite version, there were events to create the American culture in the Thirteen Colonies, you could continue these for; Australian, New Zeelander, Afrikaaner (Dutch-English South Africa), Canadian, Mexican, Salvadorian/Guatemalan (for central America), Cuban and Hispanola (Spanish Carribbien) and Creole for other European Carribbien, Brazillian, Amazonian (central South American), Argentinian, Chilean, Guyanan (European Guyana), Ecuadorian and Colombian, Peruvian and Bolivian, and possible Greenlander for Scandinavian North America. I know these are a lot, so maybe should be in a seperate mod but it would help to create a sense of nationalism since nearly all of these nations had there own cultural identity/independence by the end of the game.
Chairman Meow (JP) 7 May, 2016 @ 7:45am 
3. Since you have Cornish and Northumbrian as independent cultures (and Greek has been split up), you may want to consider diversifying the English culture. You can have Yorkist (Yorkshire, Derby and Lincon), Lancastrian (part of Yorkist or individual in Lancaster and Marches), East-Anglian (South-East England) and Glouster/West-Anglian (South-West England). Even if this feels too much, Yorkshire and Lancashire should at least be seperate from normal English, even if it's with Northumbrian but under a different name that covers all the area such as being the Pennine Culture (Pennine being the range of low mountains and hills in the north and central England).
Chairman Meow (JP) 7 May, 2016 @ 7:45am 
I used the original mod, so thanks for updating it so people can stiil use it. I would just like to make a few suggestions about the cultures and ask a few questions about your decisions.

1. The Armenian culture was larger (mainly westwards) before the Armenian Genocide, so a little improvement could be more Armenian culture provinces between the Pontic and Cappadocian cultures. This is shown by maps on www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/armenians.htm

2. Why is there Anglo-Saxon culture (I think it is) within England. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons suggests that what we know as 'Anglo-Saxon' was no longer present and both the people and nobles began changing society into the 'Middle-English' culture.
user12343  [author] 7 May, 2016 @ 4:44am 
@Cruzbones
You'd think that wouldn't have been so tough... haha
annihilatetheinfant 6 May, 2016 @ 7:48pm 
Organic Culture Transmission :D
user12343  [author] 2 May, 2016 @ 3:52pm 
@Crozbones
... I just got it...
user12343  [author] 2 May, 2016 @ 4:33am 
@Crozbones
Glad you like the mod! What's OCT?
annihilatetheinfant 1 May, 2016 @ 5:35pm 
Nice now that it works with OCT, probably my favorite mod by now :D
user12343  [author] 1 May, 2016 @ 7:02am 
@chrisd43
Comments about those specifics are probably best directed to the content's author, I'm just hosting his content here and porting it to use in Organic Culture Transmission
chrisd43 1 May, 2016 @ 6:57am 
sorry but the polish culture was not like you say it is
like the german parts you say beling to the polish culture group