Update: The issue turned out to be the dampener setting in the custom config. I had to turn it way down (to 20 from the default 50). Works like a charm now.

I'm trying to use this script (and do thrusters on a sub-grid) for the first time and I'm seeing some strange behavior. Small grid ship. The ship has 4 thruster pods on rotors. The rotors are locked. When the ship is "at rest" with no movement keys being pressed, if I have the dampeners on, the ship seems to be constantly fighting itself, the forward and back thrusters alternately firing. I initially thought this might be because there is unequal forward and reverse thrust, but evening the thrust out did not change the issue and then I realized it will do it up/down as well, where the thrusters are already even. I did a short video snippet to show the issue. It does it if I rotate the thrusters as well. (I did learn that I needed to turn the dampeners off while rotating the pods or it goes berserk though).

https://youtu.be/Y3GVueDgPOI

If someone has an idea on why this is happening and how to fix it I'd be very grateful to hear it.

If I'm understanding this right, then in order for the command to work the main grid can not have thrusters?

No. Dampeners are synced with the dampener state of the main grid if the main grid has thrust.

Yes. Is it possible for the dampening not apply to the subgrids?

do you have thrust on the main grid?

I can't seem to run dampeners_toggle
Every time I try nothing happens. I type it in; hit run; nothing happens
Am I doing something wrong?

I've rebuilt Scrap Ship 09 from the new Rusty World. There are two rotor thruster subgrids with atmo engines on opposite sides of the ship. I've updated the rotors to Advanced Rotors. When I set the rotor group to 45 deg, the left one goes forward, and the right one goes to the rear. Is there a way to set the angle as a group? The ship is flying but it is a handful to maneuver.

Correction for clarity:
another script of OR physics weirdness

"Im trying to remember name of other script.."
Likely vector thrust 2 or Vector thrust OS?

Never had it rotate rotors. It doesn't interact with them only the thrusters them selves far as I've ever seen. There is another script out there that does move rotors and hinges. But it is not this one. Im trying to remember name of other script.. But if recall it was automation it just kept ships level. So other script might be what your using as well?

If you are seeing rotor movement when you thrust, it is not this script. It is either another script of physics weirdness ("Remember to lock your subgrids or you will get torque").

I promise you it doesn't and it never has.

It does seem to use some form of control or influence over the rotors and hinges.

For clarity, this script has absolutely no control over rotors

Thank you very much mate. its not that the script is deficient its more so that with what im doing i was not expecting the rotors to suddenly start being controlled by the script as previously it wasnt. Im sure theres ways around it but its just easier for me to use the older version.

This script doesn't control rotors at all It just extends movement controls to subgrod thrust

For some reason the rotors just dont wanna turn, is the script outdated now or am I doing something wrong?

Can I also ask why you prefer the old one? If the new one is deficient in some way, I'd like to fix it

If you have the older version already in a programmable block, you can open it and copy/paste it. I also publish my scripts on GitHub: https://github.com/Whiplash141/SpaceEngineersScripts/commits/master/Released/subgrid_thruster_manager.cs

Is there a way i can use the older version of this script? I have an old blueprint when i did some mini testing of this script and it worked exactly how i wanted it to but now if i try to copy the old block without using the blueprint it changes to the new version of the script. This is also in part to wanting to use the dlc version of the programming block.

In the programmable block edit menu

Ah ok makes sense, but where in the files do i find the code then?

This isn't a mod, it's an in game script. Adding it to your world as a mod will cause errors.

I have a really werid question. I´ve downloaded the mod and its shown in my workshop page under the same number but i cant see the mod ingame to add to the game... What can cause this cause never had this issue

got it thanks for the reply

As for posting the ship, I think a youtube guide would be better at answering that question.

It does make sense. The hinge without shared inertia was wiggling and slightly angling to one side, and that caused the thrust to not be completely even, causing your ship to steer in one direction, at least for a short while, if not for the whole duration if the thrusters being used.

also how can i post my ship in the user creations?

I think i fixed it. It may had something to do with inertia tensor. I had it turned on on the wings hinges but i had other hinges (not attached to the subgrid) and they had it off so i turned it on as well and now it flies straight. Does this make sense?

Its forward thrust on foldable wings. I also locked the hinges

how are your thrusters oriented? if you have thrusts at diagonals, that can happen because the thrust in the axial directions isnt balanced perfectly.

Cool Script but I have a problem. I got two subgrids with 2 thrusters each and when i accelerate the ship it dosent fly in a straight line it kinda points up and a little bit to the left any idea why?

You'd think so, but that's assuming I re-read the description since I subscribed to the script. I did re-read the rest, though, some time ago.

The underlined sentence in the description attempts to make that clear

I was under the impression that this script controlled the rotors, hinges, and pistons, too.

Oh, I figured what my issue was. Your script doesn't seem to control those rotors and hinges, to use their thrust, it only controls the thrusters.

Thanks! Last time I checked the script, that wasn't the case. I will check again, on a new vehicle.

It already will. As long as a block can be seen in terminal, the script can see it

Any chance you will make the script work with multiple layers of subgrids?

For example: Control seat and a gyroscope connected with a rotor connected to a hinge connected to another rotor connected to a thruster. So a single-thruster intended to move the ship in all 3 axis of movement, in all 6 directions of movement.

I read this through several times and am still not sure of how to do this. The "setup instructions" are very unclear and I have no idea how to put the code in the programable block.

How can I use this with thrust override? It doesn't seem to let me use it with this script

@whiplash141 - Merry Christmas, as always love the script. I was wondering whether it was possible to still be able to use thrust override on the sub-grid thrusters as I would like to manually override the thrusters to allow for slower movements and save power. This script (or a bug) keeps resetting my override to allow for hover. I've disabled dampeners and tried other measures but to no success. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers o7

So I just got it set up on my rig and seems to work quite nicely, great work!!

I am having one small issue. the sub grid thrusters are still firing off once I have docked and locked to my stations connector (this was also occurring prior to adding the script aswell, just for clarity)

I took a stab at using the augments specifically the dampeners_toggle thinking that might solve the issue but I was unable to get it to work. Is there a simple fix that im overlooking?

worst case I'll just set up group toggles in a separate tab so not the end of the world but if there is a solution I would appreciate the help.

ok thought so that's good to know thankyou. In Clang we prey

You will probably want something to lock those grids. Be it timers, event controllers, or toolbar actions.

Though, the game-physics gods could smile upon you and you might be totally fine without. Its a toss-up.

Oh man this looks amazing I haven't dabbled in much scripting yet but going to give this a swing.

One question I have is I'm planing a ship (small grid) with most of the thrusters on the main grid and I'm looking to have landing gear fold out via hinge (from a large grid) and the plan is to have additional thrusters on this super grid that are intended to be active both in flight and (during landing which will change the angle of thrust) my question is will I need to set up some event controls to lock and un-lock the hinges to avoid the phantom forces or is there an easier solution that im missing?

i found problem on server bassicly when i connect to my other grid same size litterly copy for my miner connected grid goes crazy thrusters go left right up down forward in all dirrection while i sit and do nothing it goes crazy

Under which section are the connectors turned off by default?

If the gyros are also on subgrids, you need a different script to control them. I have a subgrid gyro control script on my workshop (SuGMa).

Really love all your scripts, Whiplash!

I'm attempting to use this one to rotate a cockpit for a small grid ship from upright to laying back (transitioning from gravity well flight to space travel) and still control the ship correctly. When I pivot the cockpit between the two positions, it works great for directions, but i can't seem to turn my ship or get any roll. I have 4x gyroscopes there, and make sure the cockpit has control of the gyros. Any thoughts on what I can troubleshoot, or is the script not applicable for my use-case?