@Jonker

I believe muffet would just have static arms as consantly wiggling arms would be rather annoying.
A phase 1 mettaton could be a bit annoying to create though..

oh my god. i just realized. how is there not a phase 1 mettaton so you can have him rolling around with the chainsaw??? maybe it could reskin bill or nick. i only saw one for bill so maybe him.

muffet would be great, but how would the extra arms work... would they just be stiff and not move, or would they be jiggleboned and flop all over the place.

oh. oh i see, when i SEARCH for exactly these models, they don't show up... but months later, i accidentally find them while searching for something else. i see how it is.

k r i s

where's rouxls kaard? = (

Fluffy boi

HOLY SHIT YOU'RE AMAZING AT MAKING THESE

can u make undertale monsters with a zombie look for the common and special infected

GRILLBY OR MUFFET NEXT PLZ

you should do nitw characters

nice

muffet or grillby

my face is wide with excitement! i would scream, but my throat hurts ;)

Hay my dood you should make a sr pelo slapping the table and screeming when everyone is dead and you fail the misson

i love it

l love it！！！

ALL DELTARUNE !

Susie pls

will you make more of Deltarune soon?

:asriel:

Sure!

If you could take a look that would help alot!

If you're moving the weapon bone and the weapon isn't moving, then either you didn't replace the keyframes or you forgot to compile the model with the new reference file. I can't tell you how many times I've done that...

Remember, change the weapon bone's Location for the X Y & Z coordinates. Right-click on the the Location's values and select Replace Keyframes. Export the reference file and use the file to replace the old reference.smd file. Compile it and test.

If that still doesn't work, would you like to send the files so that I could take a look? You don't have to.

I still cant figure out how to fix it.. :/

Okay, so sometimes making the weapon bone in the reference.smd file set to 0 isn't enough to fix the issue and you have to move the weapon bone itself.

Since the weapons are floating above the hands, you'll have to move the reference's weapon bone in the opposite direction that you want. So, if you move the weapon bone away from the hand, it will get closer for the model.
Move the weapon bone away from the palm-side of the hand and go from there. Remember to replace all the keyframes when you move the weapon bone!

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/958599755017361592/290DEAF230E3E5B66FC198D7B0EC24002254CAEA/

May I also see a screenshot of the reference file with the Weapon bone selected?

All of Ellis' bones are there, including the weapon bones.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/958599755017340043/60EE35112E2827172814B48E026CE5FBEA8BCE2A/

Can you screenshot the model in Blender with its skeleton visible?

I didn't shrink any skeletons, neither did I edit those bones at all. I am confused why it is doing this!

A couple of things come to mind:
Did you edit the reference.smd file in Blender? I hope you used the Pose-Mode to move the weapon bone instead of edit mode, since the clip bones need to follow the weapon bone exactly. You shouldn't have to move the left weapon bone in the reference 90% of the time, only the right bone. Remember, in the HLMV you can check the Enable IK box to see how the model will hold weapons like he would in-game. If you did use Edit Mode instead of Pose Mode, just remake the reference.smd and use Pose Mode. Remember to replace the location keyframes!

If not, then either you're using the wrong Survivor skeleton or you shrunk the skeleton down instead of moving the bones regularly. From my experience, it's never good to shrink/grow a survivor's skeleton, as it can mess up key animations. Always mess with the Location and Rotation, but not the Scale of a Survivor's skeleton.
You'll have to redo the rig if this is the case.

Ok, i've just tried doing that method but it seems they are still floating, and one of the hands isn't gripping the weapons properly.. :/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/958599755017037433/D03249FB15948325BB525E917981469FD73CEBD9/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/958599755017037728/9B6F983B8C63159212B480DAEA25A122AF77B63F/

The weapon issue is easy to fix. Open the reference.smd file you made from the guide in Notepad++. Just like fixing the right warped hand, you'll need to find the first 3 numbers used for the ValveBiped.weapon_bone and replace them with 0s.

You can also load the reference.smd file in Blender and pose the ValveBiped.weapon_bone in there. Due note that the reference file works backwards; moving the ValveBiped.weapon_bone out will move the gun itself in and vice versa. Don't forget to Replace the location Keyframes if you do mess with it in Blender!

Thanks for your help! The rotating seemed to fix alot of issues, he no longer has weird legs and wrists. There is still an issue with weapons, they float above his hands, but it is looking better then before! https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1565388478

What you'll need to do is to select the Thigh, Calf, UpperArm, and Lowerarm bones and make it where their X axes follows the dashed lines that go to the next bone (Thigh axes should follow to calf, not knee; upperarm to forearm, not elbow...) by pressing R and/or Ctrl+R, dependant on the angle. If you press R and the X doesn't move that well, try Ctrl+R, and vice versa.

For the thighs and calfs, rotate the bones while viewing the model from the front view and the side view. For the upperarms and forearms, use the front view and top view to rotate the bones.

Once the X axes matches the dashed lines from both angles, export the model, and don't forget to make the reference file!

Ah, this is typical with Valve models. If you're not using facial animations, you can use $DefineBones in the qc file to automatically fix it, but it's not the proper way to fix it. Plus, if you do have facial animations, then the model will look broken.

To properly fix this, you'll have to import the model in Blender and rotate certain bones that will align the X axes to their following bones.

Select the skeleton of the model. Then, select the Data button (It's one of the small icons you can click on the right side. It looks like a Stick figure and is next to a bone icon and a pair of chains). Under the Display, check the Axes box. This will allow you to see and X, Y, and Z axes for all the bones.

Hey, I've been currently been working on a Asriel replacement for Ellis and have been using your size proportion trick guide to help me (thanks for making the guide btw) However, his legs are bent strangely and his wrists are twisted, I've tried weight painting the mesh differently and editing the bones, but after many failed attempts they still look weird. Any idea how I can fix this? Here is a W.I.P screenshot. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1564764521 Thanks!

oooo whats next deltarune sprites

This is awesome

pretty good mod pack honestly.

Wow

wowie it doesnt work even tho i have the papyrus thing

nice :papyrus:

WOW AWSOME HUMAN!!!!

nice

;c