not working

i can't esbern or delphine...

I confirm right now that this works! I screwed up and activated the Paarthurnax quest before subscribing. Still works, just talk to the greybeards and Parthurnax after you talk to either Esbern or Delphine.

in this mod, ye can hicht from the moral hich ground/pull rank ond scold them for their blindness/shortsichtedness ond spare Paarthurnax from their misguided hatred. thus the Greybeards yet luv ye for following the Path of Wisdom, their monasterys doors keep open to ye, Paarthurnax lives on ond helps tame other wyrms by learning them the Way of the Voice following Alduines sack, ond the Blades can yet reform ond help ye, the Dragonborn, as is their foremost sake ond duty without hindering ye.

luv this mod. ever á deemed it unfair that the Blades should yet cling to an immoral grudge against Paarthurnax after he helped the eld Nords by larning them the thu'um ond winning their freedom from wyrmkind, ond by outgrowing his natural wyrmish behaviour by practising the Way of the Voice ond helping ye, the Dovah Kiin, Akatoshes Chosen, thwart Alduin ond spare Skyrim, all Tamriel, Nirn, ond the kalpa ites self from the Woruld-Eater. they oucht be glad at his redemption, nó seeking unjust vengeaunce upon he for past wrangs. the Blades serve the Dragonborn, nó the other way aboot.

can someone help ? i tried several things,i talked to everybody and only new option i get is "..."

all hail Paarthurnax!!!! all hail dragonborn!!! man who born to make peace to skyrim!!! man who carry his sins to oblivian!!!

someone r u able to bring peace to skyrim?
talking about the war :|

Deleted a post, I didn't understand the chart correctly and was able to save paarthunax after CW was done.

we don't want him to die. he helps you find the elder scrolls

Paarthurnaax is a good guy but his name in Dragon tougne is, ambition overlord cruelty, so i suppose there is a reasson to agree with the blades (but not good enough)

yes...yes....YES

YES YES

OH MY GOD!!!!
IT WAS PEAK!!!

MLG NOSCOPE OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!

thats not how you spell betray but this is not bad critisim

can you still reform the blades if you basically bitched them out?

Well dang it, now I have to restart, Something killed him.

if un subscribe dose it put kill him agen

oh and good work everythings working fine for me

i juat read through all 88 comments and alot of wor has seen to have been done with this mod

ok RJ to the point if tou do the CW quest line Eather side no season Unending quest will start so that just leaves the 2 dorks in there new hide out no blades quest will start, but no CW quest line done and ya you will PO eather the blades or Graybeards, so with that you will like this mod if your a non CW quest player.

@Raiko Scarlet

Violent option suggestion was asked long ago and it exists with protections to keep you from breaking the main quest line entirely.

As per included diagrams once you learn the of Odahviing (which happens in either of these quests the Blades have outlived their backstabing author enforced usefulness)
The Fallen (mq301), Season Unending (mq302)

A monitor script will also clear their flags if your already past that point so if you want to you should be able to shout them off a mountain forever. (Tested... a lot, had to make sure it worked properly)

@draken23, Roman soldier (part 2/2)(Why 1000 char limit steam...)

Note that during development I noticed the way Skyrim modding works is quite poorly designed.

Check your quest statuses by using the console and check, (Please provide the output of these commands)

player.sqs MQPaarthurnax
player.sqs MQ00_MonitorAddonV2

Please note that since this is free work response times may be random to forever. (Also I can probably just say what went wrong)

I’m almost done some major projects and still have my ancient save files, test case saves, and some friends saves that I can run against the recent patch level.

@draken23, Roman soldier (part 1/2)

Technically speaking there is no way this mod can kill Paarthurnax it doesn't handle anything not even reviving anyone it just adds dialog, and monitors quest flags and disables essential status on two certain individuals and lets you skip quest stages. The graph attached show the flow of the modifications and code can be obtained from the files and it was checked quick throughourly when I developed it way back then.

A recent patch may retroactively killed paarthurnax but that would have to be done by Beth not me. I don't even use the same quest endpoint stage.

If anyone has problems please attach your player.sqs outputs, savegame, DLC used, and patch level as well as anything different than vanilla Skyrim. (Note I only can run the stock game at latest patch level without other mods, unclean mods or using more than one mod that touches these quests can break things in horrible and uncontrollable ways)

PAARTHURNAX is dead the mod did not work for me I was givin no choice

I TRUSTED THIS MOD!!!!!!!

Can you make a option like... To kick Esbern and Dephine asses? 'Cause I prefer this violent way. I played Skyrim many and many times, but never killed Paarthurnax.

PAARTHURNAX LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay parthunax lives

Paarthurnax fixes are always welcome, but I appreciate the depth you've put into this, and the variety of solutions available. Thanks for this!

Useful, I never really wanted to kill parthnoxx

This is perfect. I really didn't understand why these options didn't exist in the first place.

This is a awesome mod!

i hate to kill parthunaxx, this mod saved him

This is exactly what I wanted, I always wanted to join the blades and not kill Parthunaax.

I've heard that which side you take affects what additional cutscene occurs at the end of the Main Quest. One where you talk with Paarthurnax or one where you talk with the blades. I may be missinformed but can anybody give me more information on this and if I'm correct, which cutscene is shown? All this affects my decission to get this mod or not.

lol murder in a fit of rage?

PLEASE if it's not too much work

Any way you can make a mod that at a point just let you lie and still be good with blades and graybeard both and not have to kill parrthurnax without any of the conflicts for us non computer nerd players. P.S. and just too let you know i wish i was a computer nerd !!!

@a200500 I didn't really bother with trying to correct that blades questline glitch and went on and finished out the others. I'm already at level 56 on a new character and finding other new glitches on quest that worked fine before and entirely unrelated to this quest mod. I was experimenting with turning off mods to see if I could correct the glitch but so far nothing has done so. This problem is in the Wolf Queen side quest. When I go into the catacombs to retreive Potema's remains, I get all the way thru to where her spirit flies out of the big fight room with her guards and it tell me to retreive her remains. The game crashes to the desktop.
Like I said.. a totally unrelated line to this mod but I think somewhere along the line a mod I have had updated or conflicted with a game update, I just havent found out which one yet.

Oh, and to anyone trying to clean this mod it was editing in one go after many clean starts and I've checked it with TES5Edit (3.0.26) and it has no dirty modifications so no need to mess around with files.

Note: Depending on what beth did to their quest features the monitor script (MQ00_MonitorAddonV2) may not be able to start which in some cases may prevent you from ending certain actors lives. (There are redundant triggers as well, I ran into so many bugs while learning that I haven't tried again for quite some time. Although I have a new computer that can run everything from a ram disk so the editor is much snappier)

@torok551 I don't have the DLC for the game as I wholly expect in a while they will sell them in a bundle for a lot less than their questionable value. The DLC can cause bugs and if one of them alters anything in the diagrams included above things will break. I don't think any of the DLC actually affects the existing main quest line so it might work.

@Alliecienti I don't think this mod interacts with the Blades autogen quests as I specifically made it so the quest marks it as complete in their mind for whatever reason unless you choose one of the other options where Delphine would be unable to talk. The quests are really quite boring so I never really bothered creating the saves to test against. If you can post or send your save somehow I can test it time permitting.

I installed this on my last character's run thru Skyrim... It worked as the diagram showed..
The only bug, and I'm not sure that it's related to this change, is that I couldn't get Delphine to make one of my followers a Blade.
So far on this current character I havent gotten this far in the Questline.. too busy running Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quests currently.

Dawnguard compatable?

@That warrior from Hammerfell

Win.
Then i can beat the thalmor after they kill the blades. It's phun :3

option 4: threaten to rat them out to the thalmor

Also removing mods may not clean your save file of the edits as strangly the scripts that the mod makes or modifies remains even after you remove them which is a strange design decision and also makes running scripts I intended to help with data checks and removal difficult to keep working without a lot of renaming and copying every time. The best advise is save before modding your game if you want to go back to a clean slate. Also if objects are killed, disabled, removed, etc... they won't be reverted to before the mod was installed.

When I have free time again I might try to expand upon this and figure out beth's messy modding system. Also I'll make any of my mods more verbose in the script logs and for now you can also just try typing into the console ( sqs MQPaarthurnax and the stages should show up as in the diagrams above and if it is stuck and you can post this it would be nice )

As noted on the bottom of the page I'm been quite busy with my actually not game related profession.

But to anyone still reading the flow chart provided shows how the options are unlocked. And I also tried at one point to create a version that can be removed without affecting the save file but it caused all sorts of beth bugs to occur.

I did give approval to some people who wanted to translate the mod but they should have an attributation to a nexus mod of the same name and author.

How do I unlock the other options? I can for some reason only lie to them or of cause kill paarthurnax.

For some reason after learning the dragon's name, Delphine walks to me and just tells me that Paarthurnax deserves to die, but doesn't give the quest. After leaving the conversation, she keeps talking to me and says the same thing all over again. Speaking with Arngeir or Paarthurnax doesn't help either.

Does your file on Scharesoft contain German text or this one and the one on Scharesoft the same?

You could probably just remove the quest mod, use console commands to reset it and then kill parthurnax (you monster) or just ignore the blades and get no benifits from them.

if the DLC was based on that choice, blade or grey, how can i ''reset''? , more simply how can i unfriend grey or blade?