1963-1992 if I don't mess

what are the years on the tram

Can I use your model to make a repaint?

Ну что поделать. Там в игре всё изнашивается.

Мне кажется, он слишком сильно со временим изнашивается, слишком сильно

Both 71-403 and 71-405 (as known as "Спектр"/"Spektr"/"Spectrum") are just clones of Tatra T6B5 with simplified design and different engines. These are high-floor "old-school" cars. There is olso more modern 71-407 car with low floor on the middle, but it is still not cutting edge. KTM8 (71-608K) as serving in Daugavpils is a rare car nowadays. Most of these cars were operated in Moscow and now they all are suspended and sold/scraped. Most of other cities have just a couple of these car or alredy had got rid of them. These cars have wider body (2,6 m to 2,5 m of KTM-5) and are more comfy to passenger and driver, but it is still a KTM5 basically.

I was talking about 71-403 and 71-407. They at least look better than the Ust-Katav models ;-)

Of course, I can talk easily, did not even get close to any of those Russian (and Belorussian) models. I only know the KTM-5 from Daugavpils (was there a few month before the KTM-23 and KTM-31 arrived there). The KTM-8 singleton was stored in the old depot, which was not connected to the network that time, so I missed my chance to ride it...

KTM-23 basically is KTM-19 with a pit on the middle. It is noisy, bad-assembled bucket-with-nails, as we call it here. I often ride them here in Moscow and may say it is nothing to compare with German or even Polish cars.There are some more progressive models, designed in UKVZ, but built in TVZ (Tver Reilcar Factory). But I never ride themm only saw on transport exibitions. Uraltransmash makes only bad designed clones of Tatra T6B5. 71-414, if you mean it, is not built in Russia, it is exported Polish PESA car, and it is known officialy. It is called "UVZ 71-414" only to override our "counter-sanction" laws. As it always in Russia - laws are severe, but there is always an option to dodge them.

Belarus cars (Stadler) are nice, but very bad assembled, even comparing with Russian. But if you compare overall design off course they are much more modern than Russian.

after all, the KTM-23 don't seem that bad, and there are good (looking) new trams from Uraltransmash too. Belkomunmash also has some successful models, although I don't like their design...

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hey, guys, I agree that replacing old cars is always a sad thing. But you know here in Russia old cars are usually completely ruined or outdated, so we always glad when new cars are bought. We (Moscow and S-Petersburg) used to bought Alstom and PESA articulated trams, but know these cities buys only Russian - and you know, Russians make the best tanks and battle planes but alway suck when they need to build something peacefull.

didn't copy&paste, just wrote it before reading the other answers ;-)

And of course you are right, modern trams replacing old ones are per definition ugly

@sepruecome nice copy/paste ^^
I know that all
Iam living there ^^

@sepruecom sad to hear it.
@KnockbackKing oh, I see. But I think Flexity is not that ugly. It could be much worse)

Strausberg paid for the modernization of the third car by giving them the two other cars. Today there are four revenue trams in Strausberg:
- 2 Flexity Berlin (used from Berlin)
- 1 KT8D5.RN2S (with low floor central section
- 1 T6C5 (the prototype for New Orleans, which ended up in Strausberg)
The regular service is done with the Flexities, if one of them is unavailable the KT8 is used. The T6C5 is an extremely rare occurence, so you need to be really lucky to find it in service...

No I dont think so that they are in Strausberg. The tram there has now those ugly things
http://img.fotocommunity.com/ein-flexity-in-strausberg-574bc1a6-652a-4315-abcf-13d5e17b7295.jpg?width=1000

@KnockbackKing yep, we are talking about Tatra KT8D5, not KTM-5, off course!

The first link is a foto of modernised KT8D5, the second is original KT8D5, and the third is Tatra T6C5 - inique car, built for New Orleans, but finally settled in Strausberg.

I think u mean this tram? http://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschland~strassenbahn~strausberg/859578/strausberg-ste-sl-89-kt8d5rns2-22.html Right? Well... I saw only those two in Strausberg. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2oI9ch9LEE0/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.bahnbilder.de/bilder/an-endhaltestelle-lustgarten-straussberg-stadt-341184.jpg

@sepruecom I've heard that all three Strausberg cars would be modernized in Czech and sent back to the city.

There is actually only one KT8D5 car in Russia, alas. it runs in Volgograd city LRT line.

All other "Russian" KT8D5 came to DPRK, couse in 90's Russia could not afford them =(

Latvian is fixed, thanks)

those in GER were in Strausberg, near Berlin. They basically came too late to be bought by East-German cities (the 3 from Strausberg were used cars from Kosice).

Only one remains in service today, though it was thoroughly modernized recently and fitted with a low floor central section...

@ kowkamurka
Btw. "Larvian Daugavpils": When will it hatch, and what will it hatch? (typo)

Ive never saw one of those in GER ._.

@ kowkamurka
THX so much, you're the best! ;-D
Tatra KT8D5 's my most favourite street car (tram) ever! My 1st ride on a KT8D5 was in Prague on a prototype street car in the early 80's. Today you can also find some of them in Germany, CZ/SK, RUS and DPRK. :-) Greetz!

I've visited Trojmiasto (Gdansk, Gdynia, Sopot) and Warsaw. This year Wroclaw and Lodz are in schedule. Konstal trams work in these cities for sure)

I was in poland with my class on a tour. I like the krakower Trams ^^. Thanks for the fast answer :D

@stilo01 Tatra KT8D5 is planned next)
I will convert my Cities Skylines model.

@KnockbackKing
I have plans to make Tatra KT8D5, then, Tatra K2. Later may be Tatra KT4.
I like Konstal cars, especially old ones (13N and 102Na), but 105Na is also a top one. I will wisit Poland again this winter, so, may be, I will make myself to model this car)

@ kowkamurka
I like all your models, you're bringing the era of the eastern bloc countries back again.
:-)
I'd also appriciate the "CSSR made" KT8D5 trams. I'd donate this work immadiatelly. ;-)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_KT8D5
Thanx so much.

Greetz from Germany

What are your next projects?
Is the NA105 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstal_105Na one of them? ^^
Or the KT4D from the Czech Republic? ^^
Eventualy the KTNF6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTNF6 ? c:

beautiful model thank you :)

Nice ^^