Not that I'm aware of as of yet. I'll keep an eye out. On the plus side, from what I gather, you can at least still uses Doomsday and NSC together without personal issue. It just prevents the ai's from using the same parts.

Is there another mod for 2.0 that does the same as this one now that @Crusader Vanguard has stopped working on it?

@Suncrusher I can confirm that, at least for me, it doesn't work. All the ships go black and don't work.Game crashes before the game finishes loading the map.

Does this work with 2.0? or not so much?

Never mind. I found your mod-patch for RS respectivly

It says: "You MUST have one of the NSC mods: Main or Streamlined."

Is it possible to have JUST "Realistic Ships" and not the NSC at all?

I never could get it to work doing all those things, but I had no problems getting it to work with the Streamlined version of that mod instead of the full version. *shrug*

@Cronyx - My guess is you have either a corrupted core game, in which case you need to verify files, you have a corrupted mod, in which case you need to reset the mod (NSC has instructions), or you missed a mod that causes a conflict.

I just tested your setup (plus a UI mod) and it works fine for me.

I'm using the following mods:

This mod, of course.
(-New Ship Classes & More v7.0-)
Realistic Ships
ISBS: Doomsday Weapons & Ships

And nothing else. When I go to create a new race or edit an existing one, as soon as I get to the ship appearance tab, I get a hard CTD. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

Thank You. Btw, the strike cruiser tech finally turned up. :)

@gax - No, I forgot to rearrange the two ship classes after releasing NSC V7. Order has been updated in the description above.

You do not need both Master patches, which is most likely where your issue is. If you use ISB Balance, use the Balance patch only. If you use Doomsday only, use this patch. If you use both, use the Balance patch.

Btw., i already got the light carrier, wich supposedly is to come after strike and battle cruiser.
Did i f/u my game by wrong research order?

I´m using both this master patch together with the CP: NSC - RS - ISB Balance Master Patch and i dont see to get higher than Battlecruiser. When i cheated to get all techs, i got all the ships, but when i tried for one hour wih the finish research cheat, i didnt get any tech leading to attack cruiuser or battleship.
Is there a techtree showing the prerequesite tech(so i know what to research) or is my setup wrong?

@EVERYONE - Mod has been updated and should be functioning for all mods involved. Please let me know if I missed anything.

Thanks

@N2Marine - Right now? I don't know. When NSC 7.0 is released tomorrow, it will definately need an update, so please be patient. I have to work on getting NSC out first, then fixing all the compatibility patches. I'll make a "comment announcement" when that update happens.

Dose this still need to be updated or is it good?

@Lucullo - Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I don't pay a lot of attention to RS or ISB coding anymore, so I almost completely rely on subscribers to bring such things to my attention.

I agree with your assessment, and I will look into it and divide up the bonuses so they come after the ship class itself. NSC actually has this problem with the Battleship Assembly Yard, as the Battleship is one tech behind it, but overwriting vanilla files is something we actively try to avoid.

I'm about to start updating these patches for NSC 7.0 and hopefully the upcoming 1.8 patch, so your timing is really good. LOL. RS is also about to get Titans (after Patch 1.8) and I did suggest to Tal that he should separate out those 3 classes, because right now the Battleship with all 3 together is rather useless. So hopefully I'll catch that one too.

Of course the problem is present in the ISB Balance master patch too ...

Hello, I just want to signal a minor issue : RS changes the BS assembly yard spaceport module to also improve DN and HDN, however it splits it in a different module for each HDN tech and makes each one dependent on the corresponding tech. The assembly yard tech remains researcheable with just spaceport 6 tech.
With the patch active HDN techs came much later, so if you research the BS assembly yard tech asap you cannot use the module straight away, for just the BS.
In my view, to make things coherent, it would be better to have a basic BS assembly yard module (bonuses for BS and DN), available with just its tech, and the advanced dedicate HDN-only modules that become availabe with the corresponding HDN tech. In this way you will be required to consume an additional module slot, but this is coherent with the special nature of the HDNs.
I would try to make a modmod myself but I'm not enough confident with modding to be able to override other mods changes.

I know this now, like I said the update to this mod is what pointed out the mistake I had made. Maybe the wording on the ISB page was less clear then it is now or I just spazed out, but I had thought the dooms day was optional bonus pack or something that added to ISB balance. I have now removed the dooms day mod from my load list and just use ISB balance.

@Eidolan - There actually is zero reason to run both at the same time. I have never understood this. ISB Balance has everything ISB Doomsday has, except it also includes the "balancing" changes that Ankain finds necessary. So there really is no reason (that I have found) to use ISB Doomsday if you have ISB Balance.

Um, think your update pointed out something I had been missing for a while, I never noticed ISB had dooms day stuff built into it, always thought it was just a "add on" to ISB, so I've been running both ISB(balance) and ISB(doomsday) at the same time.... opps.

@EVERYONE - CRITICAL MOD UPDATE!

I have split my patches to support ISB Balance and ISB Doomsday separately. This particular patch now only services ISB Doomdsay. While it can technically support ISB Balance, it doesn't support it fully or well , thus the split. There is a link to the new ISB Balance patch in the description above.

@spectre199 - As far as I know, yes. The only difference between 1.6.2 and 1.7.2 should be the multiplayer system overhaul, plus a few UI changes to accomidate said changes. So, I see no reason at all this shouldn't work, as long as you continue to follow the guidelines in the description above.

is this safe to use with 1.7.2 beta

@Hawk Firebird - You need to read the description carefully. You CANNOT run all 5 mods at the same time.

In the description, I note that all 5 mods are all POSSIBLE variations of mods that COULD be required. At most, you can run 4 of the 5 required mods. You cannot run both NSC Main and Streamlined at the same time, but you require one of them to run. Both ISB mods can be run together, but you don't need to, you really just need one or the other. You will need Realistic Ships no matter what.

not sure what i am duing wrong but i cant ues this mod since the game well crash on the loading screen when it reaches 100% an i have all the 5 required mods mention for it to work, so its not that

@Eidolan - I'm not entirely sure how the SGM mod works, however, assuming it works by ship class, then it should play okay, except with the RS ships. If you can convince the author to add support for the RS ship classes, then you should have no problems.

Anyone have any insight on if SGM Battle Survivors plays well this this patch?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815339161&searchtext=SGM+Battle+Survivors

Just thought I'd ask because on SGM's page he says each ship class needed to be added one at a time, he says NSC is built in ready to go but I was not sure if via this master patch if that built in compatabilty might be changed / broken as this is loading after NSC ect.

No worries. I will see what I can do myself. I will post here when I need help then. Thanks.

@tsaieric2000 - I appriciate you coming to me requesting such a patch, but I don't want to go making random patches all the time, it's exhuastive work that would force me to keep track of the status and development of too many mods. My "direct" focus is NSC since I've a dev there, and ISB and RS are in the same "boat house", but as far as AlphaMod goes I don't use it, therefore, my understand of what it tries to do and how it should work it's good for making patches.

My suggestion is you learn how to mod files yourself. This isn't as difficult as you may think. The auras file isn't too difficult, you just need to learn what this version of Alphamod did to the file and what RS does.

I can help you out with that if you would like, but I won't be making a patch for two mods where I somewhat use one and I haven't heard of before. My time here modding is very limited, so I don't wnat to do something then not mantain it.

For further clarification, the support cruiser design can be genereated, but you can't upgrade it due to "missing component". I have talked with the creator of the RS mod and figured it out that it is because the "AlphaMod: The Fleet" modified "00_utilities_auras.txt" in the vanilla files.

@Crusader Vanguard:
Sorry, should have been clearer that I wasn't referring to NSC. "AlphaMod: The Fleet" has a compatibility issue with Realistic Ship that causes the support cruiser to be not workable in the game.

@tsaieric2000 - I don't know what exactly it is you want me to do. It's completely compatible with all Ship Class mods as far as I can tell, in fact, it says it's compatible with NSC in the description. What exactly do you want me to make "compatible"?

Hi,
I know this might not be the right place to ask, but just wondering if it would be possible for you to add compatibility for "Alphamod: The Fleet". It's another AlphaMod add-on. Thank you.

Tal Ara'nh agreed to separate out the hull sizes from his localisation file, therefore, I have now updated both this patch and the NSC-RS one to give localisation differentication of the NSC/RS ship classes.

Thank you for your efforts.

@Alguerath @Nekomata - Okay, I overhaulled the Patches (this one and the NSC-RS one) to make this work. Tal Ara'nh changed a lot in order to "clean up" the RS files, which means I had to adapt, which I now have, and I have confirmed that RS Heavy Dreadnoughts are working now with my latest update.

The one issue I couldn't fix immediately is the localisation one, where the RS and NSC ships don't actually "have" the "NSC" or "RS" in front of the ship class name. Tal Ara'nh combined all his localisation into one file, which means I would have to overwrite ALL RS localisation to fix it. I would prefer to avoid this if at all possible, as it would require me to update every minor change for localisation, which is a pain. I've contacted Tal Ara'nh about this, and as soon as I know his response, I'll update the mod accordingly.

Nope, Its not fixed, Crusader. None of the shipsets have the heavy dreadnought, especially not the Vanilla shipsets.

Still crashing.

@Alguerath - That should have been fixed with my Banks update. I just did another fixing all issues with the RS Heavy Dreadnought. I hope. LOL

It seems that this mod is causing CTDs, deactivated it and everything runs normal

Suprised that you didn't list the Extra Ship Components mod, I think this mod would dovetail well with that one.

Hi CRUSADER VANGUARD , and thanks again for this awesom compat patch
Just a question , i my game it seems that the battlecruiser NSC and RS are not identified by their origin anymore! So i've got two "Battlecruisers" type but can't kwow anymore wich is NSC or RS !
Is it a bug , a miss in the coding ? or a problem on my end ? other ship classes are identified NSC or RS as intended...
can you help ?

Thank you very much

Regards.

@TKCPrime - That's due to vanilla Stellaris and Paradox, not any mod of this patch. While Nessa did provide NSC with new animations, that's just for the vanilla shipsets. Nessa would be the one to speak to about adding animations where they are missing. Asari Civilization mod, or on the NSC Discord server.

I noticed that the pirate battleships don't have explosion animation. They just disappear when destroyed.

@landrasil - I wish I could take credit for that, wanted that to be fixed forever, but no, this doesn't touch that. Perhaps, *maybe*, Paradox got their act together and improved it? LOL

also does this patch fix or adjust autocomplete by any chances? It's not giving me bad setups anymore when I autocomplete

Drat, I was hoping someone else had had this issue and knew of a fix. Oh well.