Definetely it would be great if you add some trinkets for this class. But instead of the sugested buff spells I would rather some more universal stuff like (+15% scouting on Weald +2 SPD), (-10% party surprised on Cove + 10% PROT) or (-20% stress damage on Ruins + 5 DODGE) Because I dont find specially interesting using skills that are not good against some type of enemies just to buff the spell which is actually good against that enemy. Anyways, good job on this class, I love the art and the balance of this character.

I second Kartoffel's trinket idea. I like that type of synergy/gameplay as well.

Do not listen to the haters, man. "Get rekt, son" is not a pinnacle of DD but too damned close, it made me smile and the class as a whole is good, no nonsense dmg dealer with fine barks and visual design, thumbs up from me.

Hey! I've gotten into modding and i've friend requested the both of you. I'm trying to ask for permission to use some of your assets, slightly modified of course. The mod i've made is of course very modified from what you've done, but i have used this mod as a base. I don't feel comfortable publishing my mod without permission, so please let me know how you feel about me using your assets (Only art!) in my project. If it's not okay, that's totally fine! Discord: Zykles#0273. Sorry to bother you!

I also made 4 skins recolors for this class' art: brown robes, black robes with gold hat, red robes with blue hat, and green robes with red hat. Would you like to have those even if you decide I cannot make the class revamp?
The current plant would be to name it "thaumaturge" so both classes can be used without conflict.

Hi, tried seeing if you were on the Moonlit Dungeon discord to message there, but would it be possible to use this class to make another class mod? I was going to try to make something more mechanically similar to an FFXIV black mage.

Tried adding the rotating 20% buffs, where Fira buffs Thundara, Blizzara buffs Fira, and Thundara buffs Blizzara, each buff only lasting until the next round. The biggest problem was it pretty much locked you into taking those 3 skills every single time. Non-issue if you use a mod to just have every skill, but it pretty much killed skill selection decisions.

Oh well I find him to be pretty well balanced if i compare to other class mods and i tried a lot of them.
I would simply love trinkets for him and for your Red Mage class mod that's for sure but i understand it is a lot of work

Hey Kartoffel- I haven't consider trinkets to be honest. A lot of feedback early on was black mage is over powered so I stayed away from doing much else with him after some balance tweaks. I may revisit it though if there is still interest. Thank you for the kind words : )

(Sorry I'm contained by the character limit.)

If i may suggest one idea, I always loved of elemental mages and my favorite of his attacks are Fire, Blizzara and Thundara. So i was wondering if it was possible for a trinket to give him like a 20% damage for one of those spells after using a diffrerent one.
Exemple: When using Fira, gain 20% on next Thundara, Thundara gives 20% to next Blizzara and Blizzarra gives 20% damage to next Fira
I love the idea of the extra damage when against a specific type of enemies and i think this would make him even more useful when fighting against enemies and bosses of different type like Unholy.

Anyway this is just a suggestion and i understand very well if you are done putting work into this mod. It is very well done as it is!!

Keep up the good work!!

Hey! I'd just like to start by saying that I simply love this mod!
I find it very well balanced, always useful and it's appearance is just awesome!

Also, I'd like to know if you planned on making any unique trinkets for him. I think i'm not the only one who would love that and i think customizing the Black Mage with specialized Trinkets would be awesome.

I would do the trinkets for him myself but I have just started experimenting with modding DD and my tries have been unsuccessfull so far. I can't seem to make my changes appear into the game just yet.

I've been searching in this workshop for a Time Mage class I could have sworn I saw, but I can't find it and came across this instead. I'm too excited to use this. :D

I'm realy want full pack of reskins and additional classes from FF and FF2.

I never played more than twenty minutes of Final Fantasy on the NES but this mod is pretty good.

Does his skills include Hadoken and Stabbity? They'd better include Hadoken and Stabbity. There are forests to nuke and dumb red meatshields to knife in the head.

There are a lot of people out there trying to restrict creativity by being as hostile as possible to creators. Although in a different medium, I am like you, I find the hate hinders my desire to create. I don't have much advice, only understanding :) All the best.

Baron i saw the time mage when i looked up White mage

and sages are tecnihcally White Mages because white mages become Sages

and yes, a named boy was a white mage. his name was Noah

also i like the girl designs more

Well white Mages are underrated

I had a white mage, lol People bitched about it. Also had a Time Mage

Baron please make a white mage. because you can never have a black mage without a white mage

That's wonderful news Baron. Thank you so much for your time!

oof pretty awesome, I'm looking forward to it!

Ignore the hate Baron. As much as possible. People are dicks just to be dicks and because they need an outlet in which there is no consequences for themselves. I think this mod is fantastic and will also look for that update. :)

Looking forward to it! Definitely looking forward to the Black Mage, I'd love another backline murderer to add to the roster :)

Thank you for your support for those of you who aren't D-bags. It means a lot : ) And to show you it means a lot I'll be updating Black Mage, Red Mage, and Housecarl when I get some time so they will be playable in the current build of the game. I'll announce their release as soon as I get it done. : )

I hate that nasty comments ruined your motivation. From what I've seen the black mage looks amazing, but without an update I can't use it.

Anyway thank you for what you've put out Baron. I use a number of your other mods and they're all amazing.
Much love to you.

Also directed @scorpiovaeden as well!

@Baron Dude that sucks, like honestly if you don't like it you shouldn't bother to say something about it unless it's constructive. And yes they might be constructive at first but overtime just become ignorant. Me personally out of all the mods this was the one I was into. The style was odd but it's Final Fantasy so the oddness kinda was a hidden charm. The only reason why I wasn't into it was I'm just scared of my game bugging out and I wanna make sure the mod is safe you know? But I hope that one day this eventually gets like some sort of CoM update. Though I won't get it right away but whenever I wanna start a new journey, and I want to see something new, this will probably be the first thing that comes into mind. As of right now, just looking at the Jedi Knight class hope only the best for you guys <3.

Posted on the same question with the Red Mage: Yes I created the various Mages, but it was Scorpiovaden who made Terra, Ovelia, etc. We're good friends and have collaborated on a few different ones. I know he is updating some of his with new animations due to the new patch. I took down some of mine (white mage, time mage, ghoul) because I got tired of all the personal insults, attacks, and nasty comments for not making them a certain way or fixing issues I didn't know how to fix. I was going to take them all down but enough people seem to like the others (including this one) so I left it up. A lot of the modders I know have left and stopped making new content because they got tired of the abuse. Hard to stay motivated to do something you aren't paid to do when people crap all over you for it.

I checked scorpio's other mods: He's redoing a lot of them and getting rid of others for CoM/the latest update

Yeah, what happened? Did you empty and fix them?

woah what happened to all of your mods? They literally just all disappeared save for a few. I really enjoyed the Ladies of Captivity mod

The tool tip for Fire spell say "buff_rule_data_tooltip_vampire"... Maybe some string is missing?

The bark when the Black Mage becomes Selfish is just some weird <string afflicted> thing instead of actual dialogue.

Thank you Hobbes, I'll see what I can extrapolate from these changes and let you know if I have something else to add

Ok so I did some rebalancing of damage and buffed everything but Ultima. My concern now is whether or not he is too powerful so feedback in regards to his damage output is appreciated. In most cases damage was improved around 20% with the exception of Quake which was more around 5%. Hope this helps make him more usable in later dungeons.

I'm trying to level this class up because I'm really liking the artwork and concept, but it feels really underpowered, the only decent spell is Ultima?
My hellion was doing a lot more damage, aoe-wise and single target.
I'm still using him because I'm hoping he gets better late-game.
Also for some reason Blizzara 4 reverts its crit mod from 5.0% to 2.0%.

Hey maybe it'll get a lot stronger at the last spell tier, from what I read it gives more AoE? :o
Anyways, kudos for the class and thanks for the hard work.
Esper Harmonne seems he know what he's talking about, a lot of his suggestions seem neat.

So...? '3'

A example why i think he's underpowered.
There's plenty of characters with "+ %DMG against Marked". +100% for HoundMaster, +75% for Muscarine's Tusk, so on.
The DMG Gap is really significant. And they have utilities and buffs/debuffs, self heals, and so on.

There's also in some FF a ability that permits an Spell Caster cast 2 spells at the same time. Here could do too, but of course at a cost.

The Fire/Blizzard/ Thunder are all with low damage at first, but then... Comes Fira. Firaga. And the respectives for Blizzard/Thunder.

With the levels [the level of the skill itself] increase the damage And the positions that hits [Firaga dealing AOE it's always a pleasure~].

The "Balance" is the fact that he can't get hit at all or he dies. The lowest HP of the party. Party Surprised, enemy's AoE, Blight/Bleed... He can die easilly.

Take a look on the new Mod Classes and the level 5 skills of the Vanilla Version of the DD.
Even someone focused on damage have something else or an specific focus where they can shine. A Gimic, an playstyle, something diferent from the others.

The Black Mage is famous for his Heavy Damage, yes, bus also for the STOP spell [-SPP], Blind [-ACC], Poison [Blight], Drain [Deal damage + heal self], Sleep [Stun]... He's can be really diversive and has good utilities in the field of Debuffs.

And great suggestions all around

Previously I got a lot of complaints he was too powerful so I am always working on balancing him. I think a few trinkets to help there may be worth it

A Set that increase his DMG and ACC [he's really weak, even if he hits 2 positions, and the ACC on Quake is REALLY low. Like, Leper levew of Low] would be good '3'
He's a Cannon Glass with no support, buff, debuff, HP Heal or Stress Heal. So he Must do a crap ton of damage if he will be worth, in other case other Backline damage dealer with 'something else' will be the choice.

Well, i'm playing with the Class right now, and it's fun!
He can deal damage and you build him focusing where you go.

Courtyard? BURN THOSE MOSQUITOS WITH FIRA!
Darkest Dungeon? A Shoking experience with Thundara.
Having problems with those pesky backrolls? Let's shake the party with Quake.

He's good in every dungeon if you build him right, having good use in all positions. His Camping Skills have a lack of personality yet, but i know that you can costumise and improve them. And trinkets focused on his Skills [Itens of FF series, like Potions for +%HP, a Book for more Damage for each Spell], and the CC Trinkets inspired on Vivi Ornitier, the most famous Black Mage ever.

Should work with crimson court. Haven't worked on trinkets, but if people want them I can work on some ideas