does the wyvern milk part still work?

The TLC 3 developer patch seems like it will supplant this mod, as it includes Wyvern mating.

(v310.41)

Does this still work? we are on map ragnarok and installed the mod on a rented server and we arent seeing mating. they have hearts above the dinos but no mating

There appears to be no way to get Wyvern Milk. Wild wyverns from this mod do not spawn with any milk and I'm not sure why.

Hello everyone, I have solved the blueprint path issue. Your paths are now here.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/876473236/3896114028900021690/

Hey Rusty, I need the Blueprint paths to the Wyverns so I can enable them with Simple Spawners.

how do you tame the new wyverns? or get their eggs?

Yes they do mutate @lauriethompson200

DO they mutate?

mod id ?

where is the mod code to add to private server

Hey if you want to add me and chat it up a bit there instead of all over the comments here, go on ahead.

Well in Ragnarok, when you fly through the Wyvern area its a death zone of instant death of death spitters and death zappers and death melters and death ground deathing up all death. So eggs are kinda hard to get there especially without speed upgrades. Which is another reason I want to remove Wyvern speed but leave milk production alone.

I worked on a few methods for trying to detect sex or age and to change whether the wyvern could produce milk. They either did nothing or crashed the mod, so eventually I arrived at where the mod is.

At the settings I've most frequently used the mod, baby wvyerns cannot craft milk fast enough to seriously effect their own maturation.

The 1 to 1 egg to milk production rate was carefully thought out. Alphas drop milk in numbers like what you're talking about. A random egg grabbed from the trench should not.

Well, as you know speed on fliers was removed for a reason. Wyverns are naturally the fastest dino in the game so you don't need them to have a speed upgrade. Otherwise someone can pump 74 levels of speed upgrades into it and it will be unstoppable in PVP. Probably even PVE too. You can see that even in official servers, no one has problems using Wyverns without the speed.

Since I run a PVP server, I'm concerned this will become a problem.

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Other than that, I haven't used the wyverns yet to produce milk. How much milk to they give for a fertilized egg? If 1, I think it should be 5-7. And then if you can make them drop unfertilized eggs, it could be one to make one milk.

I only just got a few wyverns.

Also a question. Is it possible for you to detect baby phase and disable milk crafting in non-adults?

I would be suprised if egg collectors or the hitching post recognized the wyverns or their eggs, as they'd likely have to reference the new object types.

I don't recall the last time I saw a wyvern drop an unfertilized egg. If I get a chance I'll open up the mod and see if the modded wyverns can drop those.

The base wyvern breeding mod only changes them to breed, nothing else. There was a great deal of debate at the time I was working on it about the gameplay balance of hunting alphas for milk, and doing anything to change that. The goal of that mod was to ONLY change the wyverns to breed.

Well I mean you hadn't replied in over a year.. :P I've seen a lot of mods simply get abandoned.

I came to ask about the rates at which Wyverns drop unfertilized eggs because my egg collector isn't picking any up. Nor can I hitch your dinos for some reason to the S+ hitching post. I really wanted to use unfertilized eggs for milk production.

I mean since you are here, I'd like to know. Does your non-speed wyvern mod include milk production? Because I didn't realize this one breaks PVP by enabling speed when I got it into the server.

@Vas I'm not sure what my public online status has to do with the mod.

@Everyone_Asking_For_Ice_Wyverns Since Ragnarok isn't actually part of the official dev kit, its exceedingly difficult to mod them at all. You kind of have to shoot into the dark to make any changes and usually break something.

Wyverns cannot be cross bred with this mod. I wanted to, but they are different animals as far as Ark is concerned.

Every time I push an update to this mod, thousands of players have to re-download it and any servers running it have to update, hence my general tendency to not update it if it's working for most people.

That said, I haven't been keeping up with this thread for a while, and it seems like there might be something broken for a lot of people. I'll try to go over the mod again in the next couple weeks. No promises.

Modder has been offline for 51 days, mod hasn't updated for 2 years.. I think we all see where this is going.

I actually didn't notice this added speed back to their flight capabilities, so now its a bad mod for PVP servers. :/ Now I have to replace it with something else and have people bitch at me that their wyverns are being deleted. Meh, I dunno what to do right now.

will you be adding support for the ice wyvern from ragnarok?

aare you able to cross breed wyvern types?

This mod sadly doesn't work on my server. T-T

Hey what is the mod number?

Is this mod compatible with calssic flyers?

GOOD

im unable to get the hearts to appear for mating above my wyverns. i made sure to use ones spawned after mod. is there maybe another problem or a way to fix this?

@💀ShramShrumin💀 If I recall, the answer would be no. I think the Wyverns that this mod uses are different than the base. So what you would need to do is install the mod, wipe out the existing wyverns and eggs(maybe?), and grab the new ones that will hatch into the breedable ones.

That said, I'm not 100% sure, but I know there's a few mods out there that would allow you to breed the regular wyverns. S+ gave the function to the S+ Tek Mutator and there's another mod out there that gives you an item that you can use to allow normally unbreedable dinos to breed. So if you want to specifically breed two existing wyverns, you'd need to use one of those.

Little confused by can this fix current living Wyverns to be able to mate or no?

by summoning the wyverns, I'm guessing they are wild? how would you summon in a tamed ?

In breeding i have two level 240s and the egg came out 175. is the max level egg for breeding 190?

Can I use this mod at Ragnarok Map?

So, I put it into the game.ini under the rest of the settings and it didn't do nothing. Anyway, thanks and have a happy new year :)

@xyrvee If any config line can change the spawn rates, that one should do the trick. If it works, do let me know and I'll add it to the description.

Okay, thanks! So the line should be: DinoSpawnWeightMultipliers=(DinoNameTag="Wyvern_Character_BP_FireHmod_C",SpawnWeightMultiplier=0.01,OverrideSpawnLimitPercentage=False) for an example?

@xyrvee There's a couple mods out there that have configurable spawn limiters, like Classic Flyers, that might have some success.

You might be able to limit the wyverhood wyvern spawn rate with config file lines, but I didn't design anything special for that into the mod. Use the entity IDs from the above description instead of the normal wyvern names.

I wound up placing turrets.

@RustyOneTwo how do I stop these overspawns? I tried to edit the normal Wyvern spawnrate and it didn't work out

@xyrvee that's almost certainly this mod. It caused a great deal of overspawning problems on Ragnarok.

I am playing on the Volcano map and we have around 200 Wyverns of each type in the canyon. Is it possible the mod is causing this?

@rhaylee it works with classic flyers because it overrides the wyverns that classic flyers would be providing. The speed boost means the wyverns from this mod are like the flyers from classic flyers.

does this mod work with classic flyers or does the added speed boost you gave wyverns make up for that?

setimprintquality works on all dinos, imprinted or not. I've used it to spawn and imprint dinos to 1,000,000% and try to break the game and server. I died while invincible by smashing through the level ceiling on a level 2,000 paracer with such an imprint. If setbabyage doesn't let your friend imprint then rip imprint. I'm not about to try to make my mod compatible with acm. If I have the time, I'll do a maintenance run on my active mods, starting with the paid ones.

Except ACM allows me to spawn a baby that someone can imprint on. I can't 'setimprintquality' on an unimprinted dino and there is no command to set someone as a dino's imprinter.

Just use the command line to spawn in the wyvern you want, you don't need ACM to do that.

Perhaps then an alternate mod that simply removes the flier speed thing while keeping everything else the same?

I also noticed this mod doesn't work with ACM. Your Wyverns can't be spawned via ACM so I can't spawn a baby level 150 for a friend to imprint on like I wanted.

@Vas That would require rebuilding the entire mod from the ground up with techniques I never started using as a modder. A lot of mods do use config options, it requires flow charts, which is a side of the dev kit I never got into. Even if I got into it now, an update to this mod that added it would break every wyvern under this mod before that update. I've already done that twice and promised not to do it again. I appreciate that you'd like it but it's not possible for me to do that with this mod.

Is it at all possible you can make a config option to disable speed upgrades? :P So that we can get a choice as server admins.

@vas I'm not actively modding any more, since it took so long for a stable dev kit to come out around the time of Ragnarok, I stopped freelancing and returned to full time game development. I have maintenance to do on this mod and a few others.

As to your question about female wyverns and milk, that was my original plan, but it is not possible with the modding skills I have for Ark and UE4. In order to get female wyverns to generate milk, but not male wyverns, they would have be different species, and would then be unable to mate.

There are more advanced tools that *probably* could identify female wyverns and drop milk items in their inventory periodically. I didn't develop skills in those areas and don't have the time to do so now. It's not that I don't care about the mod, it's that my own game projects demand my time.

@vas My decision about the speed modification to the wyverns wasn't done lightly. I have three wyvern modifying mods, this is the only one of the three that got that change. The decision was not based on what happens on offiical PvP servers or what is good or best for balance in unmoderated competitive exploitative play, but what makes good game balance.

Most modded servers are also moderated, and players who abuse mechanics like you described are either playing as expected or are eventually banned.

The original gameplay intent behind wyvern egg acquisition was to tame and train an argent or lymantria in speed, steal an egg, and run. With the speed nerf, this is physically improbable, as Wyverns are the fastest flier. Wild wyverns must be slaughtered to obtain an egg, which is difficult to impossible for early play. By bringing these wyverns in line with other mods that restore speed modification, players can use this strategy or any other.

Anyhow, looked at all the other mods, and this one appears to be the best. I just don't want to add it because of speed. Has everything I need, a good milk method (though I'd have some thoughts on that as well), and breedable wyverns.