It no longer works with the new mod launcher

Not working for me

@RealityMachina pls giff WOTC version with modded dudes. :)

Does this work with the Allies Unknown Viper mod?

Fuckin' viper tounges
Penetrating walls and shit

Works with WOTC for me.

It works with WOTC, but not with modded enemies. Would be nice if this mod could be configured via ini to work with viper variants added by other mods.

Not working here (WotC), may be it's a mod conflict. May be it just works with vanilla vipers and won't work with mod added variants??

Update: well, I think I guessed right and IT DOES WORK FINE with regular viper tongue-grabs, not working with mod added enemies with tweaked tongue-grab attack (i.e. Viper Primes from ABA).

@RealityMachina Can we get an official ruling: Is this WOTC compatible?

The mod works just fine in WOTC for me

Does not work in Wotc, getting grabbed at a constant rate which has made vipers possibly the most dangerous enemies mid game because enemies can fire on the grabbed soldier, if you have a viper pull you before any other enemies react...

Yeah this was a legit 5/5 mod for the vanilla and lw2 xcom2 which i played and finished. now on wotc run and we need a WOTC mod of the same purpose. i cant believe while playing in wotc, them vipers can just pull my soldiers on FULL cover!

On my end at least, it doesn't work in WOTC. Which is a huge shame. Guaranteed damage and turn lockdown is so incredibly important and this enemy just gets 2 free abilities that grant it, regardless when the pod pops. I'd like to see a WOTC version one day.

I'll have to pay attention next playthrough if this works in WOTC... Regardless, I'm guessing it won't stop skirmisher grabs through full cover :(

@Breadbox:
Seems to work for me in WotC...

Polis Update :(

doesn't seem to work with WOTC

It doesn't appear to work with WotC... at least not with the Ruler Viper. I just had someone grabbed through full cover and at the same elevation.

i forgot.

he never reported back

@TractorLover:
Does it need to be? I don't think the Viper's tongue grab ability would've been changed in WotC. Try it and report back.

will this ever be updated for WOTC?

It sure lowers the challenge that they still try full cover grabs all the time, the fools.

This is still a thing from time to time. The vipers do full cover grabs. Any chance for an update?

Pretty sure I just had the Full Cover Viper Grab happen to me. For the record, I believe it was a Viper King on higher elevation, which might account for it. Not sure if the Full Cover works with the Ruler version.

@necro55 - yes, many updates. Click on his workshop link and have a look.

Have any of his mods been officially updated for WotC?

great to hear, hope the functionality itself still works :P

Just tested, and it doesn't crash the game.

Willl this be updated for War of the Chosen?

i think this mod does not affect the Viper King ><

@Dark All Night:
Oh. I don't know of one that does that. Maybe you could hack the AI file so Vipers don't use that ability.

@Spacemann Whiff:
Not sure what you're asking for?
Could we have a mod which disables this mod? Just don't use the mod.
Could we have a mod which disables tongue grabs through full cover? Use this mod.

can we please get a mod that just disables this? because this makes no damn sense.

Currently essential for Long War 2. Uncovering a pod with 3 or more Vipers means insteant death currently as you cannot reliably kill them all in a single turn. Since they prefer the tongue move, grabbed soldiers are out in the open and (in my campaigns) were hit 100% of the time they were targeted. Leading to at least two deaths each turn.

After uncovering Vipers and trying to hide along walls, they magically grab you anyway, or flank you. One of the most unbalanced changes in LW2 (and it has plenty).

Umm... Can you make this applicable to Viper King as well?

that would be great, if LW2 bound wouldn't get targeted. not sure why pavonis did that.

Hey man, Thanks for the great mods. Question/request: can you make it so that grabbed/bound units in LW2 can't be targeted again?

does this work with long war 2?

@Touka
Sounds good to me. Vipers and Archons had the most disappointing aesthetics of the ETs. The Thin Men were more interesting taking on the Men In Black appearance.

Might as well remove vipers at that point.

Could you add in an option to block tongue-grabs in Low Cover too?

It only works for the expected normal situations. It does not work when a soldier has 'low profile' and is hiding behind half cover. Maybe another file needs modding?

The Contractor
"it is still ridiculous to think that the viper tongue can hit you behind cover ..."

And I never claimed anything else, but there are quite a lot of ridiculous things in games, including XCOM.

-shhfiftyfive

Quite right, but I was talking about my specific situation, which you can't know, obviously. That was: soldier without "buffs" and a Viper without damage. Viper hit chance against a soldier behind full cover was 70%, I think. 30% for a miss is quite a nice chance.

One must be very unlucky if the soldiers get always grabbed. That was all I wanted to add :-)

@The Contractor:
What have you done!

Done: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=884835724

@The Contractor brb in like, 20 minutes or so

@mammy, it is still ridiculous to think that the viper tongue can hit you behind cover, regardless of the "chances" or not. If they go through cover, it should destroy cover, imo.

@ mammy, not saying this was your situation but...

if you have red fog enabled, it can hurt the snake hit chance. add in full cover and you can be pretty safe thanks to red fog... its really really strong. so sometimes you don't have to use flashbangs if the enemy health is really low.