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This might be a dumb question, but is this compatible at all with Fitna Fracture ? I imagine not, since Fitna Fracture modifies revolt CBs, but thought I would try my luck and ask.

Can you make this a direct download? I've hit my subscription cap for CK2 mods and I don't have any I want to get rid of.

@Betch: Thanks, I will probrably play CK3, whether I mod it depends on if I stay playing and there is something I think needs changes.

@MB: There may be compatible major conversions but its just unlikely due to how many files they change, but CK2+ and HIP which are the big 2 definitely are not.

I'm all for adding challenges and options, but wouldn't allowing council to join factions be counter productive to the council mechanics? Why would I appoint powerful vassals in the position of council in favour of talented people if they are going to join factions anyway even though at a reduced chance? Not complaining, just curious.

What is with full conversion mods like Elder Kings? They don't seem to edit factions or CBs too much, or do they?

I hope you continue to work on and update this mod, I find the constant civil wars over a single law but not a myriad of far more important issues bloody stupid. I'm using it with after the End mod as of now, how compatible are they? Would be grately if you know.

Would using this with AGOT be stupid?

@Frootie Tootie: No it doesn't. I removed it because it felt it belonged as its own mod. I think I just forgot all about it though

Your old mod also made the plot to kill more likely. Does this new mod do this aswell?

Thanks for the mod this solves all of my immersion problems

- Updated for 3.2
- Council power faction will now sometimes not declare war by default.
- Independence factions now form with unhappy dejure vassals.

Officially i still need to patch the mod for 3.1 which may explain some oddities but functionality should still work.

WIll this mod work for the current version of CK2?

Does this it work with version 3.1.0?

Is this working with the current patch?

Yea don't think this mod is working for 3.0.1, all the factions act like vanilla ai

Is it just me or can council members still not join factions. None of the rules seem to work for me when enabled?

Found the problem, steam workshop wasn't updating the file so I had to download it manually

@General Kysieran Ik I have indepence faction rule turned on and no one is joining the independence faction like they did before 3.0.

@Vito: By default only one rule is active which sets council members to join factions at a reduced chance. Everything else you need to configure via the game rules to turn on.

Mod doesn't seem to work for me, it's vanilla ai behavior for factions.

Cant wait to try this out, has been searching for something to increase difficulty for some time now.
Cheers

Slightly confused by the description on mod compatibilty, is this compatible with the ck2+ factions standalone mod, because to my knowledge it does not edit the "vanilla" factions, or does addition count as editing all the faction data?

Love this mod, thanks for creating it. Always found it ridiculous how you can stop your powerful vassals from rebelling just because you gave them a council position.

Updated for 3.0

Is this mod saved game compatible ?

Hi the game rule for council power faction: no revolts war isnt working. I really like the stuff that your mod does so I hope this is fixed

Should be, nothing game changing at the moment in 2.8.3.*

works with 2.8.3.*?

2.8.3.1??

@shattered_logic: Permission granted

I'm working on a tweaks/balance mod for the recent After the End Fan Fork. Can I have permission to incorporate a modified version of this mod into it?

@General Hux: No, not ironman compatible

is it ironman?

@SerVernike: Nothing directly planned at the moment, I'm sorting out the 2.8 compatability in the next few hours hopefully so I can play myself :)

Hey I think this mod is a great idea, its a very good expansion to the faction system and I love the realm destruction aspect. I'm just wondering if v2.8 will prompt any more changes to this excellent mod? I understand that any changes will require much thought and balancing but additions are always nice. :)

great mode

Updated to support 2.7.1. The following fixes have been made redundent by the recent patch:
- Overthrow Ruler faction will now increase council power laws.
- Overthrow Ruler faction will not always change succession to elective, but is more likely the more power the council has.
- Small chance for gavelkind faction to form from vassals even if not a child of the ruler.
- Although very unlikely to happen loyalists no longer have the bonus like the rest of the council to join the council power faction.
- Pragmatists are not as likely to join council power faction as a glory hound or zealot would, due to the risk to realm stability.
- Elective succession faction is less likely to form when the council power is low.
- Council position of the faction leader was affecting members membership to faction instead of using the members council position.

Heads up, paradox is going to introduce similar fixes in the mod currently for the next patch so this might reduce the mods changes post 2.7.1

@taw: The elective faction should fire alot less now when there is not much council power in the realm. Its actually refreshing to see the gavelkind succession faction again :P But give feedback if it is still happening too often.

I agree about the overthrow, should be a way to tweak it to further favour claimants or at least pick any claimaint if current one is terrible. May just need same tweak i gave to the elective faction too.

The biggest faction change this game needs is removing elective succession from being even possible for everybody except Germans and Scandinavian culture group, and remove faction for it from the game completely. Elective Byzantium is just so immersion breaking. Overthrow ruler is even worse - if bastards don't like current ruler, they should find some claimant, as was historically the case.