Hi mxmissile. Late reply, just browsing some ship designs and spotted your comment. The answer for you might be late, but some new player may find it helpful when starting out.

You can simply upgrade any ship component by using the "view" button (Eye icon) and setting it to view only "Iron" and "Engine". Now all parts except the Iron Engines will be ghosted and unselectable. Now choose the item you would like to replace it with, for example Titanium Engines, then while holding down "ALT" you can left-click to replace the block under your cursor with the currently selected replacement. Note that you can also easily change the Engines with Cargo bays or any other type, not that it would be useful to do so, but so that you understand the replacement freedom.

On some ships the designers have included "framework" blocks for the specific purpose of later upgrades.

Newb Question: I'm using the the iron version of this ship. If I wanted upgrade only the engines to titanium, how would I go about doing that without upgrading the entire ship? Is there a way to upgrade them in place somehow?

DONT TAKE PEOPLE FOR STUPID

@Red this looks perfect for what I'm needing but i see you commented that it's for an old version... is there an updated version?

This ship helped my alot as a bloody noob. Also I like the design. GJ

That description is gold

This has been my starter ship for every time I played since I got this, ty for the design

you should just randomly update it in the next 5 years

This ship is PERFECT for mining. Well done!

This was made during a much earlier build of the game when the mechanics were very different.

Not sure what I'm missing, but this thing doesn't seem capable of mining...

新手必备，换的第一条船，非常实用，强力推荐。

I am trying to find a place inside this ship ware I can place a power generator. But this things seems like it has no extra room in it at all.

the description is the best. well dones

Am I the only one experiencing power-problems?

Very nice ship. A couple of these ships got me off to a good start.

Yes. Click the edit whole ship button.

Is there a way to increase the ship size as a whole rather than increase the size of each individual piece?

This reminds me of a tank.

A very good starter ship. Used it for many hours as I learned the game.

I love this ship. I just increased it by 1.25 in size till it had 6 slots. Tweaked a few things. This ship is beast.

A beginner Miner masterpeice. Love this thing

could you make a super carrier style ship if you get the chance?

your ships are amazing. i like what you do with the engines

Finally someone who thinks out of the "let's make the biggest and stronkest ship ever" crap.

Picked up Avorion a couple days ago and I absolutely love this ship as my starter ship, thanks for making this!

@Tiger subject to the next milestone update it has been my intention to make this ship my next refurb project.

The 1 slot Beggar design which was never actually released by Derp has gained a pleasant and surprising following and part of my collab with Derp has been taking his hulls and making them do things they were not intended to do.

I am reluctant to get started until the next milestone though given how things change and it REALLY surprised me how much time ended up being spent on just that little single slot vessel which imo had already had the hard part done for me (Derps designs have no equal and my refurbs would not be of the standard they are if not for his incredible creativity and imagination).

I figured it wasn't meant for combat; it's an iron ship, after all. It's just a cheap mining ship to last until you get to the titanium tier, or to cheaply dump in a system and leave to mine automatically.

But most of the blocks are so thin, they get blown away by just a few gatling gun hits... and as everyone who plays the game knows, combat can be difficult to avoid, with the pirates and alien ships raiding every sector about once every 10 to 15 minutes.

It'd be nice if the ship were just a bit more durable, or at least have some durable spots to mount turrets onto (other than the gradual-sloped front glacis piece).

This ship wasn't designed to go into combat in the first place, which is why I tagged it as a "civil" model and named it a miner, though I'm not sure how the community views these tags.

Also, it's built more around my personal playstyle and the circumstances of the time (titanium wasn't as common in the starter areas back then) where combat is generally avoided at the Iron tier (because that's a horrible idea but taking potshots and letting the allied AI ships destroy them still entitles you to rewards) until you get a proper Titanium ship with full IFG coverage. Once you get yourself some shields, then by all means, charge in.

Lastly, energy dependant turrets don't perform well in practice at the start since the usual early game ship sizes/possibilities (and thus power output) can't support them in general. The starter ones are completely randomised so starting with energy consuming turrets is RNGesus taunting you, unfortunately.

Thought it looks nice, I've so far found this model to be ill-equipped to support any energy-dependent mining turrets (like the ones I started with), and extremely weak. It can't face even a single early pirate ship and hope to survive more than a few volleys before needing to flee... but at least it's fast. Hit & run is all it can do. The armor peices are just too thin, it has no structural integrity, and has limited energy to work with.

Thx Derp. Actually it was the Banshee I was most interested in. I just literally 10mins ago found your catalogue on the forums and I am pulling down the XML to see if i can do anything with them.

Thank you though.

Looking forward to your next ship :D

Sure, post the modified Pioneers up. As for the older ships, I'm currently working on another ship already, so that would take some time. I'll get around to them if I have the chance. Otherwise, someone has built a ship with a lot of inspiration from the Wendall, which I'd say tops the original in terms of looks.

You should go check that one out.
---> https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=953113128

Here is an example of what I mean.

Your chassis, my engineering.

Pioneer 2 (refurb) http://imgur.com/I31Uea7

All stats are base, no mods, no turrets, no upgrades, skeleton crew.

Is there any chance you could make the Banshee and Wendall class ships available for working with? It doesn't matter if they are not fully functional.

I ask because I love your work and that simple Pioneer Miner I now have 5 variants of with additional systems and functionality from Iron all the way to Xanion.

I loved the ship so much I "grew" it through my current MP game, I have made huge internal changes but the exterior looks pretty much as it did.

The Banshee and Wendall designs both looks utterly gorgeous from aesthetic point of view, I would love to be able to tinker with them.


I also wondered how you would feel if I were to make the retro-engineered designs I have made of your ships available for public consumption?

I will of course give credit 100% I am a huge fan. But I see merit in taking some of these designs and allowing new players to build them from Iron and Titanium and modifying internals to suit.

THANK YOU!

New update screwed with its power generation, I tweaked it a bit and added an image to reflect the new stats.

P.S. ignore the additional turret slots, I left a module in there.

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Thanks. :)

Nice work