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rolypoly

23 Sep, 2018 @ 10:45am

PoP3 - How to deal with improved horse archers?

I noticed the "Use Improved Horse Archer AI" under the mod options, and turned it on and WOW!.

1. First of all, very well implemented! The way the wheel about your army, it's amazing. I wish there were more tactics like this that the AI could use, it would make the game more interesting.

2. Secondly, it's nearly invincible. They of course scatter if you approach, and they never run out of arrows (unlike your own troops, strangely). So other than having a ton of your own horse archers, how can I possibly counter them? They are too fast to chase down by normal cavalry, and any "light" cavalry units that can barely catch them are too underpowered and get shot to ♥♥♥♥.

And of course we know how bad the archer AI is at hitting anything that moves even at the slightest tangent at speed. It's actually quite comical seeing an endless rain of arrows trying to hit these horse archers, always just barely missing.

The only effective way of fighting them that I could come up with is to lure them into VERY hilly terrain, mountainous even, if possible. This slows their horse archers enough that my foot archers can finally hit them.

However most of the enemy horse archers appear in open terrain, and luring them to the hills/mountains is not always practical.

I understand this might be a beta feature (it was disabled by default), so maybe it's not very well balanced yet, but does anyone have some other tips?

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rolypoly

23 Sep, 2018 @ 2:45pm

Thanks friend, but I guess you didn't fully read my post, and I'm not quite sure what a video about history has to do with very specific game mechanics.

Tuidjy

23 Sep, 2018 @ 7:09pm

In many, many mods, a player horse archer can solo armies.

In PoP, Noldor horse archers have weapon skills in the 500-600, superb equipment, and decent A.I. It's not a surprise that there are not easy to deal with - each of them is more powerful than any player is likely to get in Native. There is nothing unbalanced about it - you are fighting superhuman fighters, with supernatural horses, and legendary equipment.

Overwhelming numbers can do it, with heavy losses. You are not supposed to fight the Noldor in Pendor, and the developers are doing their best to bloody your nose if you choose to do so.

You can still create, train and equip a custom knight order that eats Noldor for breakfast. Short of that, either leave them alone, or drown them in blood.

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If you are talking about non-Noldor horse archers, the answer is pretty much the same, except that it should be easier for 90% of them. Now, Doomguides are not much more forgiving than Noldor, but them's the breaks.

Prophecy of Pendor is meant to be hard.

Not everyone can say they beat the latest PoP at 149%+ difficulty without cheating.

As a matter of fact, I can't. But I did beat the previous version at 135%.