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XerNiay 28 Jul, 2023 @ 10:29am
Troubleshooting Mod Compatibility Issues on Ark Nitrado Server - Adding Primal Fear Expansions
Hello, I have a mod-related problem on my Nitrado server. Currently, we are playing with these mods:

Structures Plus (S+)
Upgrade Station v1.8i
Awesome Teleporters!
Awesome SpyGlass!
Death Recovery Mod (v1.13)
Boosted Fabricator+ [2.0]
100k Configurable Stack Mod
Primal Fear
Primal Fear | Unofficial Extras
Dino Storage v2

However, we are trying to add these new mods:

Primal Fear Boss Expension
Primal Fear Aberration Expansion
Primal Fear Genesis Expansion

Despite numerous attempts, we haven't been able to get them to work properly. Our server is running on Crystal Island map, and we are configuring everything through the Nitrado dashboard. Any guidance or advice on how to resolve this issue?
Would be grateful for every answer ^^
Last edited by XerNiay; 30 Jul, 2023 @ 8:59am
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123 28 Jul, 2023 @ 9:36pm 
What's your load order?
XerNiay 30 Jul, 2023 @ 9:24am 
Just like this but i tried already to put Primal Fear at the top in Nitrado but it won't change when i save it.
123 30 Jul, 2023 @ 11:46am 
i cringe when i see issues with mods that last had updated 5 years ago. and seems like s+ is overlapping with other mods, meaning you dont need the other ones anyway. and wc added ini stacking to the game so a using a mod for that is...
123 31 Jul, 2023 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by XerNiay:
Just like this but i tried already to put Primal Fear at the top in Nitrado but it won't change when i save it.
I did not use the Nitrado servers because of all the comments I read about the difficulty in configuring them. All I can offer is what worked for me when I was hosted on ARK-SERVERS and HOST HAVOC. I recently switched to RUST so I am no longer playing ARK.

"Here is a post I made years ago for a recommended load order. This is what I came up with after long hours of discussion with Devs from at least 3 different mod sets. This person I was helping was having problem with load time. I don't recommend switching to the mods I was using, UNLESS they are up to date."


Try:
Death Recovery Mod (v1.12.1)
Structures Plus (S+)
Castles, Keeps, and Forts (Legacy)
eco's RP Decor
Upgrade Station v1.8i

No guarantee on a shorter load time, especially if you are playing in single player mode.
For some unknown reason(s), single player always has taken longer to load. My guess would be that the local player is either running too high of graphics settings for single player or does not quite meet the minimum pc standards/requirements.

This is what I run and I still have slow load times when playing single player. The graphics card is what it is because of the speculator/price gouging traders. And buying second hand voids the warranty on ANY video card purchased from an UNAUTHORIZED reseller.

Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.9
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 11 Home, 64 bit, Build 22000, Installed -redacted-
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, AMD64 Family 23 Model 113 Stepping 0, CPU Count: 16
Total Physical RAM: 64 GB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Hard Drives: C: 930 GB (703 GB Free); D: 930 GB (352 GB Free); E: 1862 GB (791 GB Free); F: 1862 GB (877 GB Free); G: 1862 GB (874 GB Free);
Motherboard: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG STRIX B550-E GAMING, ver Rev X.0x, s/n System: American Megatrends Inc., ver ALASKA - 1072009, s/n System Serial Number -redacted-
Antivirus: ESET Security, Enabled and Updated


Trial and error. No other way that I am aware of.
But and IF I recall correctly, it was suggested to me that the load order revolve around mods affecting map, followed by stacking, then well, here is a copy of mine and it seems pretty solid for the most part.
Steam Workshop::ARK: Parados
Steam Workshop::HG Stacking Mod 5000-90 V316
Steam Workshop::Dino Storage v2
Steam Workshop::Awesome SpyGlass!
Steam Workshop::Awesome Teleporters!
Steam Workshop::Super Structures
Steam Workshop::Automated Ark 3 CORE - v3
Steam Workshop::Automated Ark Add-on: Power
Steam Workshop::Automated Ark Add-on: Kitchen
Steam Workshop::Automated Ark Add-on: Raiding
Steam Workshop::AA Add-on: Gardening
Steam Workshop::Automated Ark Add-on: Baby Management
Steam Workshop::Automated Ark Add-on: Automation
Steam Workshop::Speed Costumes by Pugnacia
Steam Workshop::Dino Tracker
Steam Workshop::Upgrade Station v1.8i
Steam Workshop::Super Tranq Rifle


https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/discussions/18446744073709551615/3765607014600854647/?appid=346110
https://www.youtube.com/live/qQaW2yu6kNM?feature=share



This is the link!!!
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/discussions/18446744073709551615/3417685271693000387/?appid=346110#c3417685271693676543



This is the POST:
These are "sister mods" meaning they came from the same devs when they were working as a team under S+.

Super Structures:1999447172
Structures Plus (S+):731604991
Use one or the other. I personally use SS because I prefer over S+. With the mods I use SS appears to work better.

As for load order, I was told the following as a general rule and it works for me.
1. anything that is map related.
2. anything that affects storing or stacking.
3. anything building or structure related. ie: SS/S+ one of the other. followed by CKF.
4. mods that automate resources. such as AA automated ark. be sure to use version 3 if you use.
Version 2 is no longer updated as far as I know.
5. skins/costumes
6. all others

You do have aome other duplicate mods as in mods that do the same thing. This can cause issues.

My load order on my server. To give you an idea.
ARK: Parados
HG Stacking Mod 5000-90 V316
Dino Storage v2
Awesome SpyGlass!
Awesome Teleporters!
Super Structures
Automated Ark 3 CORE - v3
Automated Ark Add-on: Power
Automated Ark Add-on: Kitchen
Automated Ark Add-on: Raiding
AA Add-on: Gardening
Automated Ark Add-on: Baby Management
Automated Ark Add-on: Automation
Speed Costumes by Pugnacia
Dino Tracker
Upgrade Station v1.8i
Super Tranq Rifle
My map is crystal isles

I am not sure what Nitrado allows for configuration settings. You may have to look up all the MOD id numbers and set them in the appropriate order in the correct ini configuration file. There are 2 of them: Game.ini and GameUserSettings.ini
I am pretty sure that the mods go into the GameUserSettings.ini file. Make a backup of your server files BEFORE you change anything. Please don't learn the hard way like I did. This is why I made all the notes I have.

EDIT: I WILL TRY and find the load order when I was playing Primal Fear.


Originally posted by 123:
i cringe when i see issues with mods that last had updated 5 years ago. and seems like s+ is overlapping with other mods, meaning you dont need the other ones anyway. and wc added ini stacking to the game so a using a mod for that is...
Hey namesake....Maybe next time you can add which mods are lacking so as to be a bit more helpful. Just a bit.
Last edited by 123; 31 Jul, 2023 @ 9:16am
123 1 Aug, 2023 @ 9:08am 
And as promised, my Primal Fear load order:

ActiveMods=
839162288 Primal Fear
902157012 Primal Fear Scorched Earth Expansion
1315573129 Primal Fear Aberration Expansion
1681125667 Primal Fear Extinction Expansion
849985437 HG Stacking Mod - no longer on Steam
1609138312 Dino Storage v2
1404697612 Awesome SpyGlass!
889745138 Awesome Teleporters!
1999447172 Super Structures
2007400172 Automated Ark 3 RP Edition - Core
2007447056 Automated Ark RP Add-on: Power Generation
2007441758 Automated Ark RP Add-on: Kitchen Appliances
2007461356 Automated Ark RP Add-on: Raiding Helpers
2007430597 Automated Ark RP Add-on: Gardening
2007418454 Automated Ark RP Add-on: Baby Management
2007411835 Automated Ark RP Add-on: Automation
1229631593 Speed Costumes by Pugnacia
924933745 Dino Tracker
821530042 Upgrade Station v1.8i
686599588 Super Tranq Rifle


1314441674 ARK: Parados - removed for being outdated

This is taken from a saved file dated Nov. 20, 2022
I do not have the boss mods installed because I did not have equipment or player levels for the bosses. You would add the boss mods after the last Primal Fear mod, before the HG Stacking MOD WHICH IS OUTDATED.
EDIT!!! There are still the INI file settings to deal with. <<< NOTE!!!
Last edited by 123; 1 Aug, 2023 @ 9:09am
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