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xandl-hofer 20 Sep, 2022 @ 1:59pm
Ahistorical Ebony/African marriage and popup issue - Mod/fix requested
As a long time CK player who fancies absolute authenticity and historical correctness - as well as probability - I do wonder that since very recently - african characters show up in mentionworthy numbers in 8th/9th century anglo-saxon england - absolutely ahistorical that is....can anyone please come up with a mod to solve this? It is very annoying and keeps my spymaster too much busy."One at least has to keep all these witches and mages out of ones and neighbouring realms" - I am suspicious that this "problem" was created through one recent update of the game - as it is relatively new. Can someone make a mod or let me know fix? - possibly via changing the AI behaviour back to normal? thx
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xandl-hofer 20 Sep, 2022 @ 2:10pm 
CK should not be a medieval "Bridgerton"
Varainger 3 21 Sep, 2022 @ 6:52am 
???????

Okay, i'll bite, but only, as i go by
"Let's assume you are honest about it and that it's not a troll attempt......", espeically as you posted in the Workshop discussion. Trolling wouldn't gain much attention here anyway.
So i'll be positive about it and respond.

A)
Regarding "recent update" :
Last content update was in 2019.

B)
The only reason why this could happen is....
Having diplomatic distance in Game Rules at default or disabled,
while one of these being the case :

1 ) africans having same religion/culture as anglo-saxon
2 ) them being part of your realm
3) Playing on alternate/random world mode

The first two can't be the case in 8/9th century or rather unusual, unless you use some weird mod or unless you actualy want to brag and managed to expand from 'Dark Africa' to England in 100 years. Likely not impossible, but who does without cheating and your argument about "historical correctness" would look rather foolish. Still if so, i'm sure folks did that before, potentially also without cheating, but i doubt they would wonder about immigration/marriage from the south nor that it would grant you much attention or bravos, In the latter case you should have simply bragged right away, instead of using that detour about "authentcity" and "correctness". At least that could have created a potentialy interesting discussion on how and noone would mind.

Now i try to still want to believe that you are serious with your thread, but it's hard.

PS : I'm playing the game since release in 2012 and still nearly daily. ;)

PS_2 : Thinking about another potential cause, but a rather unlikely one :
Nearly everyone or at least many in anglo saxon lands are members of the devil society and hence might cause witches with sourthern portraits, but that as well is alo very unlikely and too fast for the game start in 8th and the coming century in the 9th.

PS_3 : I actually had another idea, which actually sound possible.
Possible if you don't have all portrait packs as then by intermarriage portraits might get some weird mixes often ending up in for instance turkish/arabic portraits, which while not ebony are the default for Africa without portrait packs..or used to be the default.
Hmm..,actually not sure if is these are still the default portraits for 'Dark Africa', but if so, then it could be created by interculttural marriage.

I might be wasting my time here, but at least it was an interesting thought experiment on the game.

PS_4:
Based on "as it is relatively new", i suspect despite "As a long time CK player" as entree you might refer to CK3.


IF you refer to CK3, then this is the wrong forum.
IF so, i can still say it was fun trying to find an answer to your question.
Last edited by Varainger; 21 Sep, 2022 @ 9:45am
xandl-hofer 21 Sep, 2022 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Varainger:
???????

thx for your answer and taking the time for it!
to PS_4: I already played CK1 years ago and do not even own CK3 yet. I indeed referred to CKII only.
I may not own all DLC's or portrait packs, run some titlular title mods, and some minor changes to income, but I always use the vanilla game map.

Oh, I might add, that I am a historian, and studied also language, so by profession knowing my sources, and therefore can claim my rightful wish for authenticity - beeing sensitive to that - Me, beeing able to read latin, old and middle english as well as several other old forms of germanic and romanic language I do know about the historical periods, population etc. via availiable source material and additional historic forensic analys publications.

I state, that we entered a period of purposeful falsificated historical conceptions on political bases within the last decade. One could literally follow that on the news, seeing newly arisen barbarians once more toppling statues of meritful forefathers. - history does in many aspects repeat itself. Since the first half of the 20th century there is a decline in humanity in manners, style and general order. Some may think with our digital abilities or new freedoms we have advanced, but for whart price? Decay of education, moral, world powers, environment, biodiversity, destructive industries, all these are post WW2 developments. - sorry for the possibly too long sermon on the global state of decay. Nice to meet you!
xandl-hofer 21 Sep, 2022 @ 9:13am 
One other woke example - someone found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDF5wfBdeEo
Varainger 3 21 Sep, 2022 @ 9:20am 
Sorry, but i'm not on Steam to discuss worldviews, impressions on society and politics.
I did that for centuries (edit : decades, i'm not a vampire) and have enough now.
No matter if i might partially agree with someone or not.
No matter if i agree that there is general decline to see and experience.
I might disgree with the "statues of meritful forefathers" part, but won't discuss that either.
I might agree and disagree on a lot of talking points, but this is a game forum..

Gaming and anything related is for me to avoid the world out there,
just like what sports used to be for.

I also don't take 'friend' invites in general. There are many reasons for that.
I have exactly only one on that list, which was the one big exception.

PS: Oh, i see the link you posted now.
I'm not really interested.

For any future reader, all the video is about is the inclusion of roman emperor Elagabal-us
into CK3 as a woman, while having been an effeminate behaving man, but only as part of the unplayable history. Just a stupid dev doing stupid things somewhere hidden in the game. I wouldn't want that nonsense in my game as a company, but i'm not Paradox.
Last edited by Varainger; 21 Sep, 2022 @ 10:03am
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