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NIGHTMARE Mod Tank Rant
Anyone explain to me how giving the tank 40k health while also making tactical movement turn you into a snail is a good idea? I get that nightmare itself is a bad idea on purpose, because it makes the game harder, but holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ bro im sitting at my desk trying to figure out how bumping the tank's hp 50x is not at all overkill. Like im not usually the one to complain too much, but they just made the tactical movement worse by making your character walk calmly when holding your primary. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded. Did anyone actual;ly kill a tank like that? I've killed many tanks on Nightmare, check my youtube channel, but this is just ridiculous bro.
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I killed a tank with more than 60000 health, actually... :steamhappy: , with some mods of course, like "Throwable Melee" & some m203 series :steamhappy:
Jo 349 4 May @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by kurochama:
I killed a tank with more than 60000 health, actually... :steamhappy: , with some mods of course, like "Throwable Melee" & some m203 series :steamhappy:

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how is that any relevant to this thread?
he is talking about nightmare balance changes, not your weirdass user experience
Last edited by Jo; 4 May @ 4:21pm
Originally posted by Jo:
Originally posted by kurochama:
I killed a tank with more than 60000 health, actually... :steamhappy: , with some mods of course, like "Throwable Melee" & some m203 series :steamhappy:

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how is that any relevant to this thread?
he is talking about nightmare balance changes, not your weirdass user experience
Still relevant enough though, as he said about "mod" on the title (read the title again: "NIGHTMARE Mod Tank Rant") :steamhappy: . It's like fighting fire with fire. If a mod is so unfair, why not giving some boosts to make it fair enough? :steamhappy: .

& what I said is just one of options anyway :steamhappy: . There are other options, like for example, prepare a molotov & get ready to run. Knowing that tactical movements move much slower, it's clear enough that tank with such huge health is not the one to fight head on. Molotov damage is a fixed damage just like melee, so running as far as possible will eventually make tank die on fire. Another option is by using melee. Melee has a fixed damage that kills tank in 20 hits no matter how much his health is (even with 1 million of health, he dies in 20 hits). That's if some people dare enough to fight that tank with melee in group :steamhappy:

Well in short, there are always ways to solve the unfairness in a mod. Either use unfair ways as well :steamhappy: , use some tactics, or keep challenging until your skills are good enough to beat that tank :steamhappy:
Last edited by kurochama; 4 May @ 4:42pm
My point was giving a tank 40k health while slowing my movement to a crawl is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb.
Originally posted by Okilly:
My point was giving a tank 40k health while slowing my movement to a crawl is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb.
I think that's also why it's called "nightmare". Either you can keep trying until you beat him, change some tactics (like molotov or melee from my examples, or using environtments to hinder tank's movements etc), or use other mods to give some boosts to compensate the slow movements (some examples: Air Dash mod to dash forward, turret mods to spawn several turrets to help chip tank's health, or more OP mods that can reduce tank's health in bigger number). & 40k health is also relatively small health with 8 survivors. Imagine if all 8 survivors hit with melee & get 8 hits in total while 2-3 survivors fall later after getting punched, the rest of survivors can keep hitting until it reaches 20 hits in total & he'll die. Playing with fewer players may require different tactics.
By using an OP weapon script.
Ceno 15 4 May @ 8:48pm 
Clearly you haven't played the modpack with friends, just decided to complain. Just say it's not for you and move on honestly.
Originally posted by kurochama:
Originally posted by Okilly:
My point was giving a tank 40k health while slowing my movement to a crawl is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb.
I think that's also why it's called "nightmare". Either you can keep trying until you beat him, change some tactics (like molotov or melee from my examples, or using environtments to hinder tank's movements etc), or use other mods to give some boosts to compensate the slow movements (some examples: Air Dash mod to dash forward, turret mods to spawn several turrets to help chip tank's health, or more OP mods that can reduce tank's health in bigger number). & 40k health is also relatively small health with 8 survivors. Imagine if all 8 survivors hit with melee & get 8 hits in total while 2-3 survivors fall later after getting punched, the rest of survivors can keep hitting until it reaches 20 hits in total & he'll die. Playing with fewer players may require different tactics.
I play this ♥♥♥♥ solo, and im not installing some dumbass dash mod. I can kill the tank no problem, but its having to deal with it everytime i find one.
Originally posted by Ceno:
Clearly you haven't played the modpack with friends, just decided to complain. Just say it's not for you and move on honestly.
its 100% for me. I've killed several tanks on my youtube channel, but this ♥♥♥♥ is overkill solo and I cant find anyone to play it with so my complaints are completely valid
Ceno 15 4 May @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Okilly:
Originally posted by Ceno:
Clearly you haven't played the modpack with friends, just decided to complain. Just say it's not for you and move on honestly.
its 100% for me. I've killed several tanks on my youtube channel, but this ♥♥♥♥ is overkill solo and I cant find anyone to play it with so my complaints are completely valid
You haven't joined the Discord obviously, and yeah it's meant to be a hardcore pack.
yoru 45 5 May @ 2:59am 
tactical movement is long gone, and replaced with the weight system, you're living under a rock. I don't get why you would complain about tank run of all things, if you had bothered to read the modpacks description you would know it's made only for realism game mode, not random mutations.
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