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jes 17 25 Nov, 2014 @ 9:28pm
Cape reskins
From the comment thread on https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=346207691&tscn=1416978642 , I would like to get the dev response to cape reskins, as I'm sure they could be restricted if Puny Human so chose. Are there any plans on restricting potentially trollish behavior?

Originally posted by Comment Thread (read from bottom up):
Xehanoth 14 minutes ago Delete
Yeah ♥♥♥♥ it, put up a thread somewhere and see what happens.

Jesteʁ->₪ [author] 7 hours ago
You raised a legitimate issue, I asked for elaboration because I haven't had time to put much thought into it myself. Your points are very nice, do you think I should make a thread? I want to hear the devs' response tbh.

Xehanoth 12 hours ago
I dont really think I can. I'm just conflicted over the idea that people can change what capes look like, even if it's only on their end. On one side, yeah, you could make something ♥♥♥♥ty like the screenshot cape into something infinitely more badass, but only you and a select few others who have this installed would be able to see that. You could also do the inverse and make a great cape comical / ♥♥♥♥ty on purpose to spite the owners of that cape.

I dunno, I just don't wanna see "Cape texture replacer ~ Community Cape -> Flaming Dildo (Now with jigglebones!)"

im probably overreacting

Jesteʁ->₪ [author] Nov 25 @ 12:07am
Can you elaborate on this?

Xehanoth Nov 24 @ 10:40pm
im not so sure i like the idea of cape reskins

ed : off topic, but for that matter, any plans on moderating the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ workshop anytime soon, for yknow, copyright infringement? Or is Puny Human waiting until somebody files a couple DMCA takedowns first?
Last edited by jes; 25 Nov, 2014 @ 9:30pm
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Sader 97 26 Nov, 2014 @ 3:35am 
I had a cape skin up for months, they don't care.
Sader 97 26 Nov, 2014 @ 3:41am 
Slightly related note, it's amusing that xehanoth is the one troubled about this, the cape he is wearing from the 2v2 tournament is the one I had up on the workshop as a skin, and I also had a replacer for the screenshot cape as well.

The only reason I took it down was because I won the 2v2 tournament and decided to change and improve the design and use it for the official cape.

So in short, it's been done, fug even favorited it, it's not a problem and they don't care.
KindredPhantom 26 Nov, 2014 @ 12:25pm 
I don't see any problem with this. If a player wishes to replace their cape with a workshop designed one, then that is their choice.

Regarding workshop copyright and DMCA, it's funny you say that as an item was affected by a DMCA takedown recently. The item was hidden as a result of the takedown request, and so the person who created it and uploaded it then deleted it.
I actually attempted to make contact with someone who supposedly knows the person making the claim, that person did not respond to my requests. I think it is a shame as the item was well made and the creator of it was not claiming any ownership of the design. I feel a solution could have been come to without the need to remove a free item, made purely for fun and not for any profit.

The workshop for Blade Symphony is a free one and no money is required in order to use an item, so in my opinion I don't believe the items should be taken down unless the person who created and uploaded the item is claiming that the design is theirs. The workshop for GMod for instance contains many more items that can be considered as having infringed copyright, more than Blade Symphony has.
KindredPhantom 26 Nov, 2014 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Himura:
is there no way "fair use" can be applied to blade symphony's workshop submissions to avoid potential copyright infringement since no money is being made and many are parodies\research\teaching related?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

There doesn't seem to be. Basically the rules are don't violoate the Steam Subscriber Agreement and as always Valve have the right to do what they like with workshop items.

Originally posted by Himura:
also are we allowed to know which item was hidden\removed due to DMCA or do u guys have to keep this private
It was the kitsune mask.
Last edited by KindredPhantom; 26 Nov, 2014 @ 1:38pm
KindredPhantom 26 Nov, 2014 @ 1:40pm 
It was removed because it was deemed to be identical to this mask, which it was. http://merimask.deviantart.com/art/Okami-Amaterasu-Kitsune-Mask-138289038
Sader 97 26 Nov, 2014 @ 3:45pm 
The author of the kitsune mask asked me to do a version of it, I just havent gotten around to it. I know it was a popular mask so I suppose I should bump that up in my priority list.
KindredPhantom 27 Nov, 2014 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by Sader:
The author of the kitsune mask asked me to do a version of it, I just havent gotten around to it. I know it was a popular mask so I suppose I should bump that up in my priority list.
Ensure it has some differences to it otherwise it may suffer the same fate.
Sader 97 27 Nov, 2014 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by TheKindredPhantom:
Originally posted by Sader:
The author of the kitsune mask asked me to do a version of it, I just havent gotten around to it. I know it was a popular mask so I suppose I should bump that up in my priority list.
Ensure it has some differences to it otherwise it may suffer the same fate.

The original used the actual image as a texture, which is where the problem really was. If I make a similar model from scratch without using anything from him (i can easily make my own textures) he can't lay claim to it.

The style comes from a game, so if he wants to fight for the rights to the likeness/image he'll have to fight the games creators because I have just as much right to it as he does.

Not to mention he's SELLING it which is a massive NO NO, so sorry considering that author is profiting off an idea thats based off something thats not his, I don't believe he can lay claim to it.
Last edited by Sader; 27 Nov, 2014 @ 3:02pm
KindredPhantom 28 Nov, 2014 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by Sader:
Originally posted by TheKindredPhantom:
Ensure it has some differences to it otherwise it may suffer the same fate.

The original used the actual image as a texture, which is where the problem really was. If I make a similar model from scratch without using anything from him (i can easily make my own textures) he can't lay claim to it.

The style comes from a game, so if he wants to fight for the rights to the likeness/image he'll have to fight the games creators because I have just as much right to it as he does.

Not to mention he's SELLING it which is a massive NO NO, so sorry considering that author is profiting off an idea thats based off something thats not his, I don't believe he can lay claim to it.
I don't know how in that case they got away with removing the mask with a DMCA. It seems hypocritical at best.
jes 17 28 Nov, 2014 @ 3:54pm 
One word : perjury.
Sader 97 28 Nov, 2014 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by TheKindredPhantom:
Originally posted by Sader:

The original used the actual image as a texture, which is where the problem really was. If I make a similar model from scratch without using anything from him (i can easily make my own textures) he can't lay claim to it.

The style comes from a game, so if he wants to fight for the rights to the likeness/image he'll have to fight the games creators because I have just as much right to it as he does.

Not to mention he's SELLING it which is a massive NO NO, so sorry considering that author is profiting off an idea thats based off something thats not his, I don't believe he can lay claim to it.
I don't know how in that case they got away with removing the mask with a DMCA. It seems hypocritical at best.

Because as I said, he didnt create his own texture. He took the image and slapped it on the mask and used it as a texture.

Had he made his own texture that request would have held no water at all.

This is why we learn to photoshop our own textures kids, its super easy.

He used basically made a texture out of this: http://merimask.deviantart.com/art/Okami-Amaterasu-Kitsune-Mask-138289038

because he was too lazy to make his own.

Now since this person as I said is SELLING based on the likeness of something they clearly dont own they can go stick it up their ass if they want to tell me I cant use it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Ckami

On a slightly less related note:

Okami was one of the greatest games I ever played.
Last edited by Sader; 28 Nov, 2014 @ 6:32pm
KindredPhantom 29 Nov, 2014 @ 10:39am 
Ah right, that clarifys things.

I look forward to seeing the mask in the workshop again.

I have/had Okaimi for Wii, only played it a little. I really should play it fully one day.
Last edited by KindredPhantom; 29 Nov, 2014 @ 10:39am
bomba 15 Mar, 2015 @ 4:35am 
How does one get a cape?
KindredPhantom 15 Mar, 2015 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by Éomer Captain of Rohan:
How does one get a cape?
Capes can be won from winning a tournament. They are given to people who we feel have contributed to the community. We have given them out as a reward for a competition before.
jes 17 15 Mar, 2015 @ 4:04pm 
Kindred, can you lock this, please? I'd prefer there be no more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ here.
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