Wow... 4 small and 2 large seems way OP to me for any sub, unless you enjoy being nearly invulnerable. I play through single player with 2 small, maybe a depth charge launcher and maybe a coil. I even found Humpback got a bit boring after a while.

I suppose my most interesting non-OP sub would be the Yellow Submarine (in my Workshop), it's a small scout Tier II but IMO you don't need Tier III as the mechanic can upgrade Tier II to Tier III, so you can start with Tier II and go all the way to the end with the same sub. I prefer to add bells and whistles during my campaigns so I purposefully design subs without most of that stuff. If you want fancy OP then maybe try my Dallas, that is bristling with bells and whistles, and it looks all shiny and fancy (I built this one early days while learning what was possible, before I started to prefer basic subs).

It's mostly due to the fact that, as far as submarine combat goes, I mostly navigate with ocasionally using railguns when targets warrant it.

My most fun is combat and exploration outside the sub.

Intentionally flawed submarines are fun with actual humans, not bots (at least imo)

As far as Dallas goes, it's a nice sub, but I don't see how it's improvement over modded Humpback MkII I'm using.

Originally posted by blackrave:

As far as Dallas goes, it's a nice sub, but I don't see how it's improvement over modded Humpback MkII I'm using.

It has Threat Display for running without active sonar, for one, and lots and lots of switches and levers that do stuff! But yeah for a single player spending most of your time at the nav console it probably wouldn't be that much difference, like almost every sub that uses the standard nav console.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2638314941&searchtext=plague+rat

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2902314099

Both look promising, but both have massive issue of railgun controls and loaders being far away from nav terminal
I guess I could just post bots next to them and jump whenever needed, but I hope to avoid this.

Originally posted by blackrave:

Both look promising, but both have massive issue of railgun controls and loaders being far away from nav terminal
I guess I could just post bots next to them and jump whenever needed, but I hope to avoid this.

posting bots and jumping to them works great for me, i put them right under the captain in the crewlist. but i get your point, you clearly stated that youre searching for fast gun access, so i remembered this one

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2871896180
this one got a weapon controlsystem right next to the nav, but i cant remeber about blindspots


https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2857815160
in this one gunnery is just next door to nav ^^;;;


thank you, that was fun remebering and searching for appropriate subs

Wyvern looks interesting
But judging by comments it seems there are functional flaws

Maybe I just give up and build my own sub
Or modify some "close enough" sub

Originally posted by blackrave:

Wyvern looks interesting
But judging by comments it seems there are functional flaws

Maybe I just give up and build my own sub
Or modify some "close enough" sub

that sounds about right
the feeling of going around in your personal submarine is much better than any other pick,
even if its just modified/edited, it just feels more like home :)

And so it was that he ventured forth into the Submarine Editor, and spent many hours tinkering and fettling, and in the end produced a submarine that was worthy of his needs. In the days and weeks that followed he played many more hours in his Submarine, had many grand adventures, but that is another story.

Originally posted by Buggy Boy:

And so it was that he ventured forth into the Submarine Editor, and spent many hours tinkering and fettling, and in the end produced a submarine that was worthy of his needs

I'm not sure if it's blessing or a curse :)