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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:06pm
Goldsource Ragdolls
Hello, I make this discussion because of a issue I had been dealing with ragdolls that originally comes from Goldsource or ported from there. The issue is that it won't let me move their individual parts, like hands, but will let me rotate, will let me use bones. Does this have to do with ValveBiped, can Source ragdolls only be moved like that? When you try to move it moves the entire ragdoll. I tried every option in tool yet it just doesn't work. Is this bug? Is there another way to move Goldsource ragdolls I don't know of? Maybe it has do with addon confliction as I have Advanced Bone tool and I believe it adds additional feature to Ragdoll Mover.

I was answered. I founded the solution. It has to do with old bad memory and not using ragdoll stretch. Sorry for anybody's time wasted. I was going through a lot of logical loopholes. There's no issues with Goldsource ragdolls.
Last edited by WUZ'S-UP; 22 Mar, 2022 @ 4:48pm
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PenolAkushari  [developer] 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:12pm 
physical ragdoll bones on any ragdoll can only be repositioned if they have ragdoll stretch applied to them, which is another tool on the workshop, otherwise you can only rotate or rescale them.

advanced bone tool doesn't really have any effect on ragdoll mover in any way whether it is installed or not.
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:15pm 
I thought it added feature because I don't remember Ragdoll Mover having option to inflate bones. And I don't have ragdoll stretch tool enabled. I do have Joint Tool and Advanced Tool bone enabled though. I also do have Advanced Inflator tool enabled too.
Last edited by WUZ'S-UP; 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:20pm
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:16pm 
So how do I move Goldsource ragdolls?
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PenolAkushari  [developer] 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:20pm 
yeah, scaling stuff is a recent addition that doesn't need any other addon installed. mostly the only separate addon that's meant to work with ragdoll mover would be physgun undo, to undo physical bone movements.

what's exactly the issue? for moving whole ragdoll you'd need to select the pelvis bone or the like. rest of the bones can only be rotated.
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:23pm 
Nothing moves though. Everything moves all of ragdoll. Even if pelvis is selected or not. I want to pose Goldsource ragdolls, but I don't know how to.
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PenolAkushari  [developer] 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:29pm 
what models are those, exactly? some stuff from half-life:source, or workshop stuff? can those be physgunned properly?
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:32pm 
Half-Life Resurgence and Half-Life: Source stuff. Maybe it has to do with them being VJ NPCs? I tried posing ragdolls from Crack-Life Resurgence and Uboa SNPCs and they all had the same issue. I tried posing Half-Life playermodel, which do have Valvebiped and they don't react either. Now I tried doing it back on HL2 and TF2 models, which I remember did work very well with moving, now they don't no longer. What am I doing wrong? Is there something new or option I hadn't toggled on? You said it's about the pelvis. And yes you can physgun most of these normally, besides perhaps some of ported models, but for most part they can, but they still have some annoying boundaries. Like scientist model arms bit wack. I also tried Uboa ragdolls, too with Uboa SNPCs.
Last edited by WUZ'S-UP; 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:34pm
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PenolAkushari  [developer] 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:35pm 
would it be any different if you try disabling all other addons and leave only ragdoll mover turned on? there's an option in gmod's addons menu to save addons preset so then you could return all the stuff as how it was enabled/disabled, as well as an option to disable all addons so you won't need to do it one by one.
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:39pm 
No difference.
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:42pm 
Maybe there's something just wrong with my computer in general. I don't remember it being like this though.
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PenolAkushari  [developer] 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:44pm 
it worked fine with the previous version? and also, what are you trying to do, what do you expect it to do, and what happens instead? you're trying to repositon a ragdoll or some part of it with the arrows gizmo (not scaling one), but it doesn't move at all?
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:48pm 
It doesn't move at all. I think my computer's just crapping itself and I believe it has something to do with IK chains and gizmo values. The console now has been saying errors, which I didn't copy, but this one I has right now, which says when I enter Rag Mover - IK Chains is: [Ragdoll Mover] lua/weapons/gmod_tool/stools/ragmover_ikchains.lua:80: bad argument #1 to 'GetPhrase' (string expected, got nil)
1. GetPhrase - [C]:-1
2. ValueChanged - lua/weapons/gmod_tool/stools/ragmover_ikchains.lua:80
3. OnValueChanged - lua/vgui/dnumslider.lua:39
4. SetValue - lua/vgui/dnumberscratch.lua:47
5. ConVarNumberThink - lua/derma/init.lua:117
6. unknown - lua/vgui/dnumberscratch.lua:254
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:49pm 
Maybe some memory issue on my computer. Just have to clean my computer out. I had diffulicity with previous version too, but that was just my hands were very slippery. Sometimes it be hard to get stuff inside ragdoll's body. But then I messed around with options and it worked.
Last edited by WUZ'S-UP; 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:49pm
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PenolAkushari  [developer] 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:52pm 
oh, that thing. get ik chains creator and move the slider around a bit, it had an issue with first initialization where it would put a variable that doesn't work with it. that should be fixed, although as it seems like that variable remained for people who had tool installed before the fix. don't think it would help with the main tool itself though
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WUZ'S-UP 22 Mar, 2022 @ 3:54pm 
So I guess Goldsource ragdolls do work. It's really just problem on my end. From what I seen in discussion there shouldn't be not a reason for them to work unless something was really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up on my computer. Which it is, I have few memory and storage now.
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