I second this.

Initially, there isn't much to complain about when you're trying to position, say for example, two arms to be at relatively the same angle; the problem arises when you start attempting to readjust them later, and because you positioned one bone at 45.03 degrees and the other at 44.79, things start looking out-of-sync and gradually become more difficult to keep in line with each other.

In other words, the more involved a project is - especially if you're trying to make stop motion and micro-adjusting bones per shot - the more "messed up" your focus piece is going to be.

Gamer, I've just recently discovered this, and it's beyond my knowledge why it isn't on the workshop yet, but the GitHub version of this addon (https://github.com/Winded/RagdollMover) has exactly what both of us are looking for.

Hello @Caleb!

Sorry for the late reply, I'm just so busy nowadays.

How do I install it? I placed all of its files and folders to the respective folders with the same names in Gmod's directory, but I still don't see it in the Tool Mode options menu.

Originally posted by Gamer:

Hello @Caleb!

Sorry for the late reply, I'm just so busy nowadays.

How do I install it? I placed all of its files and folders to the respective folders with the same names in Gmod's directory, but I still don't see it in the Tool Mode options menu.

Are you saying you separated the contents of the folder into the various folders of the Garry's Mod file directory, like LUA files go in the LUA file? If so, you're going to want to undo that.

Every addon creator not using the workshop that knows what he's doing is going to nicely and neatly pack it in to one folder for you to use, and that folder will go into "addons", located in the "common, GarrysMod, garrysmod" location - yes, the garrysmod folder inside the first one. If there is no "addons" folder here, you'll want to create one.

Keep in mind that any addons you install this way will not show up in the in-game Addons menu, as the in-game menu shows you your subscribed addons from the workshop. There are still a few ways to check if you've successfully installed a mod outside of the workshop, though, which usually just denotes going to the relevant area and checking to see if it's there (check the NPC tab for new NPC addons).

I'm aware I may not be the best at explaining things, so please let me know if you need any extra help or have questions.

Hello! So, I have deleted all of the files that I placed in the respective folders (lua, resource, etc), I also disabled the original Ragdoll Mover itself and now I placed the "RagdollMover-2.0" in the "addons" folder (I already have that folder and I can already see my addons that have been removed from the workshop there, but this one is not showing there), but for some reason, in the "Tools" section of the Tool Gun, it still says "Ragdoll Mover" and not like "Ragdoll Mover 2.0", and also I don't see like the horizontal bar (if it exists for this tool) for like rotating an arm and stuff, it has just the exact same menus as the original Ragdoll Mover in the workshop.

Also, from what I'm seeing in the GitHub page, it doesn't have like a "full release" in the "release" section, I can only see a "Source code (zip)" and a "Source code (tar.gz)." I'm already familiar with GitHub and downloaded a lot from it so no problem downloading from there on my side.

Okay, so first thing I want to mention is that you're NOT going to see "Ragdoll Mover 2.0"; it will still be "Ragdoll Mover" and "Rag Mover - IK Chains", but this time there will be another tool as well: "Rag Mover - Prop Ragdoll" - no idea what that is and can't really help you in terms of figuring out what it does, BUT those three names are what you're looking for to ensure it works.

If it helps, I've included the EXACT process I followed when downloading and installing the files; if even that doesn't work for you, then I'll unfortunately be unable to help you get it working, however it SHOULD work since I have it installed and working perfectly. Let me know if you have any questions if it doesn't work, though.

One last thing: please don't take my very dumbed-down process below as me being disrespectful to you; at this point, it's more for my sake, making sure every possible action I performed is present in this list for posterity's sake.

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1. I went to this link (remove the period at the end): https://github.com/Winded/RagdollMover.

2. I clicked the green button that says "< > Code" and clicked "Download ZIP".

3. I right-clicked the download, which went to my desktop.

4. I use 7Zip, if that's relevant, but basically this step was me extracting the files to my desktop.

5. I put the extracted folder called "RagdollMover-master" in the aforementioned addons folder.

6. I closed Garry's Mod, giving it a minute or two for Steam to do its syncing thing just in case.

7. I re-opened Garry's Mod, and there they are: all three of the categories I mentioned.
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If this somehow doesn't work, I'm going to completely re-download the addon for myself and take better notes on what I did. Best of luck to you!

Alright then, thank you so much for your clear instructions, it has now worked.

However, where is the horizontal bar to move a ragdoll (if this addon actually uses a horizontal bar)? I tried all of the 3 tools that comes with it ("Ragdoll Mover," "Rag Mover - IK Chains" and "Rag Mover - Prop Ragdoll") but I didn't see an option to rotate or move like the arms with like a menu section to enter a value for it, I can only rotate or move a ragdoll in-game.

Looks like I neglected to mention that part, sorry.

Even in this version of Ragdoll Mover, there doesn't appear to be any slider for adjusting a specific bone how you want; HOWEVER... in the "Ragdoll Mover" section under the "Misc" area, enabling angle snapping and setting the slider directly below it moves whatever bone you have selected that many degrees exactly.

Moving the wheels will always show your rotation to the hundredth decimal point, like the original addon, but with the angle snapping setting enabled and the slider below adjusted to your liking, you can still achieve perfect rotations. For example, go ahead and enable angle snapping and set the slider to below to "1" and rotate a selected bone - you'll see the bone still moving somewhat fluidly; now set the slider to "15" or higher and try rotating the bone - now, the movement is more choppy because you are moving the selected bone in increments of 15 degrees at a time, which is overriding the hundredths place rotation that was causing both of us so much frustration. Rest assured, you are moving it an accurate 15 (or other number you selected) degrees exactly in this case.

I apologize. I should have mentioned this earlier, but I thought that as long as the desired result was achieved, the process didn't really matter.

Let me know if this helps.

As an addition to my recent response, it seems we're both playing Garry's Mod at the same time. If you'd like, I can create a server with Ragdoll Mover as the only active addon - so you don't have to wait for fifty thousand addons to load - and I can show you how to use the angle snapping tool.

That should allow for much better communication, as well, if there's anything more to be said.

Thank you so much for your very clear instructions, especially that you mentioned that the movement will feel "choppy" so that I don't get confused or find it weird. Worked like a charm!

Also, no need to worry, your instructions are more than clear (in fact, one of the most foolproof instructions I've ever seen), I've already seen so many terrible instructions for like how to install a mod in other games and I spent literal hours trying to figure out how to install that mod due to the terrible instructions in the included readme and stuff.

Thanks for the compliment. I feel like there are a lot of people out there making instructions who don't really consider the fact that the people who would NEED those instructions would be having little to no knowledge of the subject.

Come to think of it, it makes me think of that funny little "step-by-step plan to success" format, where you've got step one performing the most basic task imaginable, followed by the rest of the steps being question marks, and the final step being just being "PROFIT!!!"

At any rate, I do what I can and answer any questions that would arise. As always, let me know if you have any other questions related to Ragdoll Mover - I'm still getting accustomed to all the new features and changes included in the GitHub version, but I'll certainly make an effort to answer what I know!

Originally posted by Caleb:

Come to think of it, it makes me think of that funny little "step-by-step plan to success" format, where you've got step one performing the most basic task imaginable, followed by the rest of the steps being question marks, and the final step being just being "PROFIT!!!"

Exactly 👌🏻🤣

I also often write like guides or instructions for certain games like fixing or workarounds for like a certain glitch in a game, as much as I can I try to be as clear and foolproof as possible that even the most "brain dead" person would be able to understand me.

However, there's one thing that I just noticed that this mod for now doesn't seem to support; finger posing. I tried with a couple of addon models and also the default models like the Combine, I can rotate almost everything minus the fingers (it's understandable, as it seems to be an experimental and in-development addon).

This addon does support rotating everything, including the fingers, but unfortunately you can't revert that ragdoll back into being a ragdoll, after you left-click the ragdoll, it will be T-posed and it will remain a posed model that cannot be modified or moved other than from the tool itself (like for instance, after left-clicking on the ragdoll and using the Physics Gun, the whole model's limbs cannot be moved, the only thing you can move is the entire model and it cannot be reverted once you left-clicked it): https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2896011208 And for some weird reason, it makes the T-posed model floating slightly up in the air and not like the "Standing Pose" addon that makes the T-posed model standing directly on the ground.