Arma 3
Drongos Air Operations
Castiel 29 Jul, 2022 @ 2:09am
The Attack Helicopters can't find the infantry !
The attack helicopter struggles to find infantry, often not seeing them, just providing rocket support. Gun cannon uses very rarely This requires urgent improvement.
Last edited by Castiel; 29 Jul, 2022 @ 2:17am
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Drongo  [developer] 30 Jul, 2022 @ 1:57pm 
The spotting ability depends on the skill of the crew and the sensors the unit has. Also, try using the "Share targets" button to share your spotted targets with the selected aircraft.
Drongo  [developer] 31 Jul, 2022 @ 12:03pm 
What orders are you using? CAS?
Drongo  [developer] 31 Jul, 2022 @ 12:47pm 
SnD and guard WP won't work since there are scripts overriding those behaviours. Test with a vanilla Blackfoot and no other mods loaded. Use CAS orders, the helo will engage infantry, especially if the share targets option is used. If a modded aircraft can not find infantry, it is probably because it lacks sensors or there is a mod reducing its spotting ability.
Tempten101 19 Aug, 2022 @ 11:46am 
I am also having the same issue as well. I am using the AH-64D from RHS mod. Using the CAS order, it will attack vehicles but would not fire on infantry.
Tempten101 19 Aug, 2022 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Huseyin HARTAVI:
Originally posted by Tempten101:
I am also having the same issue as well. I am using the AH-64D from RHS mod. Using the CAS order, it will attack vehicles but would not fire on infantry.
Don't use the CAS command in the mod console, use the Eden editor command path. This mod breaks the default helis settings.
What is this Eden editor command path?
t.z.a.n 17 Jan, 2023 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by Huseyin HARTAVI:
I fixed half, I instal an A.I. mod and now helis, more have capability for the detect enemy. I'm managing for now, but you should have a look.
what AI mod you are using?
Drongo  [developer] 18 Jan, 2023 @ 3:00am 
Helos detect infantry fine for me. I mostly use vanilla helos. I also run LAMBS. Using the share targets button helps. There is more info in the readme.
Tovarish Leninade 19 Apr, 2023 @ 12:33am 
this is also happening to me, with the same helicopter (RHS AH1), Liberation RX:
-If I give a CAS order, even lowering the combat radious,changing altitude etc.. the helicopter doesn't engage infantry and usually moves away from the point to attack land vehicles that it can detect.
-If I give a Loitering order, the gunner is also incapable of attacking infantry inside the designated zone and just moves around, sometimes it moves away from some of the loitering waypoints to try to engange enemy vehicles outside the designated zone (with ready to fire enabled)
-If I use ZEUS and give the helicopter a "Loitering" order, it engages infantry and vehicles inside the designated loitering zone, circling around the target as it should do

I'm also using your better gunners mod

it's a shame because this is the only problem I can find in what is otherwise an essential and awesome mod to enjoy arma 3 air combat
Last edited by Tovarish Leninade; 19 Apr, 2023 @ 12:34am
Drongo  [developer] 19 Apr, 2023 @ 3:24am 
Does it still happen if you share targets? What kind of sensors does the RHS AH1 have?
Tovarish Leninade 19 Apr, 2023 @ 5:52am 
I tried with share targets with no difference. Passive radar. The thing is the difference between loitering (mod) and loitering (zeus) is immense, if I change the waypoint, it goes from flying in circles not engaging or doing the things I told you in my previous comment to instantly engaging infantry and vehicles in the designated area. All is the same: modpack, helicopter (entity), mode, terrain, zone. Only difference is the waypoint
Drongo  [developer] 19 Apr, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
Loitering is a non-combat order in this mod, it means "wait here and do nothing". Use CAS instead.
Tovarish Leninade 19 Apr, 2023 @ 11:40pm 
Using CAS the helicopter also enganges vehicles only and usually gets away from the point, I've tried several times, going to try again anyways in case im doing something wrong
Tovarish Leninade 21 Apr, 2023 @ 2:45am 
did a few test:

1-In general, it seems that gunners usually don't know how to use cannons with a CAS order and don't identify infantry causing the helicopter to start doing weird things with waypoints if no other weapon is available. Also to note, there are some cases in which the pilot see the enemies if they are hidden (in a forest, for example), can engage with rockets but not the gunner

2-If the helicopter has rockets, they see and engage infantry. Some helicopters can't even attack infantry with rockets (CWR3 ones, for example)

3-Door gunners don't work. I think it has to do with the CAS order telling them to hold fire when reaching the CAS point. Again, the same strange behaviour that in point 1

4-Advanced Flight Model don't work well with this mod

5-If a RDY FIRE order is giving and there is infantry near the helicopter, the gunner usually starts to engange but the helicopter stays hovering over the enemy in the same position.

Hope that this helps!
Last edited by Tovarish Leninade; 21 Apr, 2023 @ 3:43am
andreipetrea32 5 Nov, 2023 @ 1:44am 
That's also happens to me when i used Wildcats helicopters from 3CB BAF vehicles
Castiel 7 Nov, 2024 @ 6:23am 
The problem I mentioned in this title 2 years ago is no longer present, the mod works without any problems, everything is resolved. This topic can be closed.

Thanks to Drongo for his huge work and efforts. :FIA:

@Drongo
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