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Collapse Diplomatic Action
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McThuggin  [developer] 28 Nov, 2018 @ 2:42pm
Suggestions
Anything I could do to make this mod better?
Keep in mind that I want to keep this mod simple, so I probably won't do anything that involves stepping outside of its original purpose. But stuff like balancing, different modifiers, that kind of thing, would be appreciated.
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DanDaManatee 3 Dec, 2018 @ 2:05pm 
Mabye an alternate mod that adds this as peace term
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McThuggin  [developer] 4 Dec, 2018 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by :DanDaManatee:
Mabye an alternate mod that adds this as peace term
I would, just the thing is, the collapse effect is meant to simulate the things that a large empire goes through when falling apart - something that happens to an empire on its own. The only reason this is a diplomatic action is to be cheaty and allow players force countries to collapse before their time. Making it a peace term doesn't make a lot of sense, peace terms are things you demand from a country if you win a war. You can't demand that a country goes unstable, or that it increases unrest.
Plus, making this a peace offer would have the same eventual effect as just forcing a country to release as many countries as possible.
I'll admit that making it a diplomatic action with penalties doesn't make sense for the same reason (to be truthful I would rather it have no penalties - this mod was meant to be like a console command, and to feel cheaty) - but I felt that I could appease those who wanted penalties while still keeping the feel and (lack of) logic of the original mod.
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Diamondhero253 18 Dec, 2018 @ 6:24pm 
could you make a version where the who ever is #1 on great powers has the collapsing modifier? it would make for an interesting game. it would be like a natural anti-blobbing mechanic.
Last edited by Diamondhero253; 18 Dec, 2018 @ 6:26pm
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McThuggin  [developer] 18 Dec, 2018 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by Diamondhero253:
could you make a version where the who ever is #1 on great powers has the collapsing modifier? it would make for an interesting game. it would be like a natural anti-blobbing mechanic.
I don't play with DLC, and so all my mods are made for vanilla. If I recall correctly, great powers are a DLC-only feature. Good idea though.
I think there are other mods out there that hurt countries when they get large, so those might give you what you're looking for.
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Slothcat 1 Feb, 2019 @ 10:50am 
What about connecting it to the Spy Network Construction, say needing 100% to cause a collapse? It's a bit more fitting I would think. It might make people think Espionage Ideas would be a bit more valid too. I think putting in that effort would also validate an option of not having to sacrifice your own stability.
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